we have to wait until the end of may to see the indicator that we pay attentntion to, the reductin -- of rep reduction number -- reproduction number toto be undr 1. and then the government will have to change the strategy. >> germany has eased its lockdown measures in place. already today, the reproduction rate is 1. from what i understand, the health services in germany need it to be below 1 f for them to really have a handle on the situation, so it is inevitable that number will rise once things start to move, peoplele t back on public transport, etc. >> yes. inevitably, the reproduction threshold isne very important, because if the rep reduction number is greater than 1, then the epidemic can go out of control -- the rep reduction number -- the number is s greater than 1, than the epidemic and go out of control. what we estimate is that, if the potential infectious contacts are doubled after the lockdown compared to the lockdown situation, then the epidemic can go back again wiwith a second we that could potentially be greater than the first one. >> what is worrying for me, because

health criss like this, the h homeless population should be the population t that you pay the mt attentntionoto. and the county organizations that arere supposesed to prorotd provide for these organizations just are not doing enough and much of anything at t all. amy: talk about people who don't have houses, their access to water. the first thing we know, the best prevention is washing your hands repeatedly. >> right, yeah. so, , you know, , you would thtk that i in america everybody has access to clean water. but what we're going to show, basically, when we go down there on friday -- and i'm going to have other media there, at a press conferencece -- we'r're gg to talk to individuals who live on the s street about the typepf things that they're facing duringng this pandemic, particularlyly having to use the restroom outside, not beining ae toto wash their hands. now, thehe county and the cityts provided a wash station fofor 20 individualals, but when you gogo ththat wash station, the water smellsls like sewawage. you know, , the porta-potties -- the two porta-potties they provided for 300 i