>> i do not think so. >> to convert an existing empty attic into a storage attic? that does not sound like you are converting it into the living area. the a sensible addition would be converting it into a living area. >> it is usually by a letter that pulls down. a staircase would have to be deliverable area with a valid staircase. >> thank you. >> adding a bathroom, adding a ron shipp is a sensible. we see a lot of people putting elevators as our population, including us, ages. >> or houses are getting more vertical. >> that is right. no permit is required for a tool shed that is less than 100 square feet of area looking down, bird's eye view. less than 100 square feet, no permit is required. without a permit, there is no trigger for an assessment. >> you could go up two stories? >> no, actually. the planning department has a height limit of i think 10 feet in the required the rear yard area. eight or 10 feet. [laughter] keep your hot tub in your toolshed. >> in this market, if you bought your house recently and you are thinking about doing one of these that you t

. >>> and we heard a story today about one of those accidental treasures found in an attic.ondon, while clearing out their parents' home, a brother and sister discovered a dusty vase in the attic, and they decided to sell it at auction. it looked ordinary. it was actually an 18th century imperial vase from china. it sold for a jaw-dropping $69.3 million. a new world record. and we're told the young sister practically had her knees buckle. >>> and speaking of china, coming up, go there with us. and we're going to take you inside the powerhouse factory pumping out one third of the world's socks. that can simulate head injuries and helps make people safer. then they shared this technology with researchers at wake forest to help reduce head injuries on the football field. so, you know, i can feel a bit better about my son playing football. [ male announcer ] how would you use toyota technology to make a better world? learn how to share your ideas at toyota.com/ideasforgood. slow you down. introducing bayer am. its dual-action formula delivers extra strength pain relief, plus it

reporter: inside the el savoy night club fire crews still inside the building checking the walls, attic for hidden flame. both businesses detroyed in this fire. what they tell us is that they believe it started in the back of one or both of the businesses they do not actually know at this point indeed which business the fire started behind but in term of the ignition source at this point they don't know one more thing to mention there is a union pacific rail track behind this business. that track is closed we are told it is a cargo track only that will have no impact on cal tran or any other commuter rail service so if there is good news that may be it. back to you. >> thank you mark sayer in san jose. a 3-year-old girl is in the hospital one of three people shot in san francisco. several shots were fired near 25th and connecticut streets 10:00 p.m. last night two other men were shot one of them has life threatening injuries. if you know anything about this shooting, you are asked to call police. >>> 6:04 a.m. the two major candidates for governor plan to campaign hard on this last full

so many of us carry around this sibling thing in the attic thing. it came to me because something happened in our life which transformed our relationship. it was huge for me and huge for him. we learned how to become a team. and we had, my brother had a crisis and wrote me a letter about it, kind of a stunning letter that came like a time bomb, when he was quite young, barely 50 that he had a rare form of non smoker's lung cancer. it was all typed out like the fruit in a control freak way, a lawyers letter that came by fed excompletely mysterious when we

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so many of us carry around this sibling thing in the attic thing. it came to me because something happened in our life which transformed our relationship. it was huge for me and huge for him. we learned how to become a team. and we had, my brother had a crisis and wrote me a letter about it, kind of a stunning letter that came like a time bomb, when he was quite young, barely 50 that he had a rare form of non smoker's lung cancer. it was all typed out like the fruit in a control freak way, a lawyers letter that came by fed excompletely mysterious when we had just been together at thanksgiving for 4 or 5 days. i get this manifesto, i am asking you to save my life. my life changed completely when that letter came into my life. then the great task was with how to come together, which we did. again, it was a huge experience. i never thought i would write about it. i didn't think i could bring myself to. >> yet you took notes all the way through? >> of course. i write in a journ almost everyday. i was trying to come up with a new book idea. i wanted to w

maybe you should have a poke around your attic of the weekend.rother and sister caring for their parents' suburban home in britain came across a chinese vase they thought might be good at auction. they are now better off by $17 million. the auction house is in shock. >> it is a beautiful, ornate. but it had been cleared out of a bungalow in northwest london. the family thought it was only worth about 800 pounds. the staff decided to have a closer look. >> when the auctioneers realize they had something rather special, they advertised it and thought, maybe it could go for more than $1 million. >> that 1 million pounds was a serious underestimate. >> of the bidding is now $17 million, ladies and gentlemen. 22 million pounds. >> it was the most amazing thing i've ever witnessed. i come to this auction house on a lot. i see things like 20 pounds, things like that. >> when the hammer fell, the place erupted. >> 43 million pounds, sold. [applause] >> that means the buyer has to pay another 20% premium on top of that. it is the most extraordinary price.

. >>> here is one story to keep in mind the next time you are clearing out your attic. a brother and sister in london discovered a chinese porcelain vase after clearing out the family home. expected to sell at auction for $1.5 million or so, it went for a whooping $69 million. the all-time record for chinese art sold at auction. whew. >>> one unusual school in turkey keeps its students living in the past. it's a gladiator school. well, it's really a show hoping to attract tourists to a town where the ancient swordsmen may have once lived. local performers will reenact chariot races for spectators battling in a replica coliseum, gladiators will sport authentic costumes. spectator will occasionally participate. very cool. >>> chocoholics gathered. it opened its doors with 65 different chocolatiers showing designs. this year's event centered on healthy types of chocolate such as organic or vegan and those made with natural sweeteners. but that didn't stop one vendor's uncommon confection offering. take a look at that. it is chocolate made with bacon, which i think bill kar

there was people in their attics. they had punched the windows out of the attic.and they were screaming to us to come get them. >> he was relentless. look at his face, his eyes, you see the sheer determination but you can also see the fatigue. police officers in the first week, they were basically working 24/7. just being in a constant sense of survival. it took a toll, it took a toll. it was rough. >> narrator: hurricane katrina had hit the new orleans police department hard. >> katrina hit on august 29, sometime mid-day on august 30, we lost complete communications. >> narrator: warren riley was second in command of the nopd at the time of the storm. >> we were unprepared. the city was covered by water. we had no power, no lights. our radio system went down, our backup system failed. and we lost complete command and control of the police department. >> we were dealing with a police force that was completely inundated with lack of resources. and it was clear that we were having some civil societal breakdown. >> tension mixed with temptation on tuesday as those tr

. >> better insulation, better energy-efficient windows, more insulation in the attic and the walls,hings that will save the money over the long run. >> of the prediction is for more practical, less flamboyant housing market in the years to come, which is no surprise of the wild ride we been on. wbal-tv 11 news. >> now your 11 news forecast. >> middle of the month, and it is looking like november today. we were dealing with the piece did, a very thick fog blanket this morning. it is starting to burn off. you see the clouds associated with the front that is moving through the area. bubbling up from the gulf of mexico is a more significant area of showers and storms. that is going to be in our neck of the woods by tomorrow. but the umbrella and the. you'll probably needed for the morning commute and surly by the afternoon. the cold air will not affect us until thursday or friday next week. 55 right now. 53 at the airport. 52 in annapolis. mid-cities all the way up to the state line. the forecast tie with the clouds like it that much warmer padilla my58 at best today at central maryland

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maybe worth having a poke around your attic over the weekend.rother and sister cheering out their parents home in britain came across a chinese vase that may be worth a bit at auction. they're better off $700 million and a auction house in shock. >> it is beautiful, ornate but it was cleared out of a bungalow in northwest london. the family thought it was worth 800 pounds but the sale room staff decided to have a closer look. the auctioners realized they had something special. they thought maybe it could go for more than a million. >> $13 million is bid. $14 million. that million pounds though was a serious underestimate. >> the atmosphere was electric. that's a fair way to describe it. >> now $20 million pounds. heanl, at $20 million. any advance? >> it was the most surreal experience i think i ever witnessed because i come to this auction louse a lot. i'm bidding like 10 pounds and 0 pounds. >> when you get to the millions it is unbelieve al. >> $40 million pounds. >> when the hammer fell, i have to say -- my enthusiasm. the place erupted. >>

from mexico and central america and come here to work and picked up people that need a basement or attico be cleans or lawn to b cleaned and people in the construction business that don' want to hire permanent employe employees. >> the housing situation is primary concern and people we work with now and living on the streets and under bridges and access to affordable accesable . this is no subsidized housing for immigrants. >> our mission is to empower th community and we do that by job services and job reafer referra traitraining. >> and the problem was the landlords didn't like them in front of their homes and some o the narcoti neighbors were supp drinking and gambling outside and awe nuisance to the landlor and they approached the police department to have them move on and not stand there looking for a job. >> a mierjit minority of neighb complain about the location of the site and many of these neighbors complain about the presence of day laborers and it's a class struggle and it's about the rights of these work workers and by the way courts have deemed they have a right t stand the

reporter: well, the idea is they're going to start requiring that the smithsonian institution, america's attic, is going to charge each and every one of its visitors a $7.50 fee. that's a lot of money for a family to pay to go to a museum. >> i don't have that much money to spend on museums. >> reporter: if you think the people that run the smithsonian think this is a good idea, guess again. turns out they say an admission charge would drive down their attendance. >> these collections belong to the american people and we think that regardless of your income you should be able to visit the museum. >> reporter: not all museums in washington are free. at the museum it will cost you 19.95 to get through the doors. it sets you back $18 to get into international spy museum and it's $21 at madame tussauds, but the important distinction here is those are all privately run museums and many people come to washington d.c. because smithsonian does not charge admission. would you make a different choice about what city you visited if they did this? >> yes, definitely. i would just go somewhere elsewhere it

next step, move to a house with no basement or attic.hen sherry says, i lost everything in katrina. i learned to live with less real fast. by the way, we still want to hear your stories, success stories, horror stories, post them on our website, nightly.msnbc.com. or on facebook. but we would love either way to hear from you. >>> when we come back, "making a difference" for america's wounded warriors, one note at a time. ♪ >>> we are thinking of our nation's 23 million veterans here tonight. and as veterans day 2010 draws to a close, we wanted to leave you with the story of some vets who found a way to soothe body and soul and they're sharing it with others who could use a little of the same thing. they're doing it through music. they're finding it's providing a different kind of great escape. nbc's kevin tibbles has the story tonight of how they are making a difference. ♪ >> reporter: the sound of healing. combat veterans who traded in their m-16s for guitars. >> you think you're going for music lessons but it's very therapeutic. >> rep

betty, that makes me think i should visit my parents and find out what's in their attic. >> exactly. dust off some of that stuff and find out if it is worth anything. >> right. >> millions and millions for that. unbelievable. i'm still in shock over it. all right, ashley morrison, joining us live, thank you. >>> just ahead retail wars heat up in the battle for your dollars. plus, favre under fire, an investigation over inappropriate messages ratchets up. you're watching the "cbs morning news." [ female announcer ] your hands are only as clean as the towel used to dry them. so why use the same hand towel over and over instead of a clean, fresh one every time? kleenex® brand hand towels. a clean, fresh towel every time. starting veterans day get black friday prices at sears. like this forty inch toshiba for only $499.99. this garage opener is just $99.99... ...and this craftsman tool chest is half off. be the santa you want to be. find your santa at sears.com if you live for performance, upgrade to castrol edge advanced synthetic oil. with eight times better wear protection than mobil

and if you get up into the attic, you can see the crowns of the cable cars still show. it's just an amazing place. so that's my hope, you know, that this book i wrote, this story gets out, we're on sfgov tv. somebody will say, i have a cable car house, nobody asked me. come take a look at it. because right now we're down to one or two maybe that are still around when we're talking about there used to be hundreds. >> essentially into a generation of tearing them down. no more construction. complete replacement. >> yeah. in the 1910, about 1913, 1914, they really started pushing to get rid of them. when that open block that sutro rented, right on the edge of the sunset, when that cleared out, it eliminated the visibility of carville. we talk about a whole block of car houses that were still there. when that gets replaced by apartment buildings, suddenly you have a car house here, one there. just where people haven't taken the time to tear it out or build a conventional home. in the 1920's or 1930's, things were booming house building wise out there. so if you have a littl

maybe just gathering dust in the attic? you could be sitting on a jackpot.er than a brother and sister in britain who became multimillionaires overnight. charlie d'agata reports. >> it's 43 million pounds, sold. >> the auctioneer's gavel came down and smashed records. the 18th century vase fetched $83 million after the british auctioneer's cut. >> the more i looked at it the better it became. that was the point at which i said, if this is real, we're into millions. >> but nobody was more shocked than the brother and sister who brought it to the tiny english auction house. they found it while clearing out their parents' home recently after they died. the vase sat on a shelf for years, nobody had any idea what it was worth. >> it's the most expensive chinese works that's ever been sold. the previous record was for an 11th century coal, which was 37 million. that's only $50 million. the vase probably originally sat in chinese royal palas in the 1700s. nobody is sure how it ended up in a british suburb. the auctioneer who pocketed $13 million in the surprise sal

. >> reporter: then, in may 2008, a fire in the attic. town banded together, taking ownership and raising $100,000 in donations for repairs. but just when they were this close, the unthinkable. a second fire, bigger than the first. and this time, it was arson. >> i felt kicked. it was such a slap in the face. >> reporter: there was a moment to grieve, but not a moment of doubt. so, how did you get the energy to do it all again? >> it was the community, really. >> reporter: for the second time in less than a year, the town started looking for grants and raising money. >> it's a very cool organization. >> reporter: they all chipped in. the town lumberyard donating wood. and when they do rebuild it, are there going to be special considerations for your club? >> we hope so. special lounge. >> reporter: they raised more than $1 million in donations, and just broke ground a few weeks ago. is there an element, do you feel cursed? >> no, i feel really lucky, actually, about all that's happened here. the depth of capacity for caring, for helping,

next step, move to a house with no basement or attic.sherry says, i lost everything in katrina. i learned to live with less real fast. by the way, we still want to hear your stories, success stories, horror stories, post them on our website, nightly.msnbc.com. or on facebook. but we would love either way to hear from you. >>> when we come back, "making a difference" for america's wounded warriors, one note at a time. ♪ i worry about my son playing football. which is why i'm really excited. because toyota developed this software that can simulate head injuries and helps make people safer. then they shared this technology with researchers at wake forest to help reduce head injuries on the football field. so, you know, i can feel a bit better about my son playing football. [ male announcer ] how would you use toyota technology to make a better world? learn how to share your ideas at toyota.com/ideasforgood. until the combination of three good probiotics in phillips' colon health defended against the bad gas, diarrhea and constipation. ...an

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the clocks in the attics, stopped in time. pitchers and silver spoons. >> i have more than i need or want. >> reporter: it's been a bittersweet process for her. >> i couldn't do this alone. >> reporter: helped by an estate sale expert who sees a lot of letting go these days. >> when the families are attached to some things, my best advice is hold on to the memories. they'll always be there. >> reporter: making room for memories and living more with less. chris jansing, nbc news, new york. >> much more on this interesting topic, this challenge really on our website, including a place to share your own stories. either success or horror stories about the clutter in your life. that's at nightly.msnbc.com. >>> when we come back here tonight, another name we grew up with in the american home that won't be coming anymore. merican home that won't be coming anymore. 3q if you have osteoporosis, and you take once-monthly boniva, check out the myboniva program. it's free to join, and it shows you lots of ways to help improve your bone st

. -- attic. >>> a chinese vase sold for several million dollars. they found it clearing out the home of a deceased relative. >> how do you not know if it's valuable? >>> i'm starting to look at the things in our shelves. >> yeah, $5, worthless. >> we don't know where those have been. >> we should go to antique road show. >>> still to come. >>> and i'm ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >>> harvard was the only county not a drought disaster area this past year and going into the second part of november, we're plus four inches as far as rain. we're not hurting statewide. we're about 4 plus inches over. we've had a lot of rain this year. >> wow. >> and getting chunks at a time. >> and then we have a lot and over the summer not much. and we'll help that doesn't translate into other stuff. >> you said it. >> not me. >> blame her. >>> coming up on eyewitness news saturday morning. political corruption. and federal agents burst into the home of a federal executive and we'll tell you what they discovered in the raid. >>> armed robbers kill a customer at store in anne arun