huge disparities not only in the number of words but how many negative words versus positive words atu child hears can be quite different depending on the socioeconomic background of the family. but in tom's case, the black family was in much better shape than it is today. intact families were the norm back then. in the twenties and thirties and forties, black marriage rates were higher than whites so what we see today is really legacy of the sixties from jim crow or slavery. host: try to say that on the college campus today. [laughter] >> but harlem was not violent with gunfire. people don't understand that. what it[l became later so he grew up in harlem that it was a very different place back then. host: is it fair to say and tell me if it is not, but i think most americans today, black and white have a picture of black life prior to the sixties as other servitude humiliation, non- achievement, which is such a distorted picture we all understand jim crow but jesse owens was an american hero in 1932 or 36 whichever olympics it was in berlin to hitler's great chagrin of black runner be