i'm joined now via skype from thailand by aubrey belford of reuters with the latest. been following not just the story in this country but in other countries as well. what's happening to these people, how long are they out at sea? >> what we have been hearing is people have been out at sea for as long as three months. the u.n. hcr says the exodues of the state in myanmar which is where the rohingya people come from, the usual route is to come through thailand. using human traffickers who then hold them in camps in the jungle for ransom until someone can pay to get them out, to pay for their voyage. you know they go on these voyages, no money down. there has been documented murders, rapes, tortures in these camps. what the thai governmental did was -- government did was arrest a major trafficker as well as thai officials that were implicated in this. for thousands waiting at sea off the thai coast until it's safe to come into land and come into these camps and then transfer across the beard to malaysia. they have nowhere to go. what's happened now is chaos on the sea,