. >> rose: conclude about a new movie about koko chanel with the star audrey tautou and director anne fontaine. >> the first idea he had was to free her with clothes so i don't think she had a general idea in the beginning for fashion. >> rose: it was just freedom? >> yeah. i think she was her own laboratory. >> if you die do a bio pick, like an american biopick, all this time i think you can't go through her deeply, it was not my point of view and also i want to be free. when she was young i am free because there is no perfume, no things to do with the house of chanel. i can't completely express, and also she's more moving, she's vulnerable. >> rose: magnificence of our national parks, the ideas of paul volker and the life of koko chanel when we continue. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: ken burns is here. he is, as you know, the film maker who brought you unforgettable documentaries about the civil war, about baseball, and about jazz. his store january steven ambrose once said more americans get their histo