i'm just thinking could one augie that that was perhaps a way to do it. well you certainly can it is demonstrated in the us that if you've been a proponent of donald trump he can be very forgiving if you jennifer flecked and show him that you think he's just a wonderful human being and are willing to play by his terms which are very transactional and prone to impulsive action but that's what i think he was was picking to was what c. seen happen in the united states right but this is some surveys have suggested that president donald trump enjoys favorable racing on the african continent why would that be the case. it's very difficult for me to say without looking at the polling data i know that pew research center has done some work on this and shows that in fact in nigeria and even in kenya where where we're broke obama's father was born in and don't forget the birth or issue that brought donald trump to prominence was essentially a racist argument back in 2015 to the 16 and so i can see that there's certainly room appreciation of american power and ameri

but augie, why does not not seem to be working?roblem. based on some of my personal experiences, i feel like we need more programs but we also need our whole society to get more involved. lisa: so how do you change that though? so you said the society needs to get more involved. how do you inspire that change? >> some of it is to see the homeless as human beings, people like us. our bible study we're studying the book of james, talks about having compassion for the poor. from my experience, of my 20s, i was director of a youth center and we opened up our gym as a shelter for the homeless. and then in my late 20s, i worked in a street ministry where i spent one summer interacting with people in the haight-ashbury, got to know them, not just as people to step over or to ignore but fellow human beings on a bad path of life. lisa: in that work, what were some of the challenges that you heard from some of the people you were talking to that were homeless? >> i discovered from my experience that some are, that there is a whole gamut of h