this is not to play heads up or who has suffered the most or to dismiss what took place in auschwitz or what the nazis did or what the japanese did. this is not about that. this is about the fact that dr. king understood terror. he lived with it every day. it was no twin towers but it was a bomb. his wife and children's lives were in jeopardy. he had been driven off the road. he looked around him and he saw a lot of murder. tavis: he was stabbed here in new york. violence and terrorism was not an abstract. for anyone to suggest that there is some current design on terror that would overwhelm dr. king and to have him in counter a debate on it is somehow -- >> i don't think that the issue was being a pacifist. that is not what he called on everyone to be. he called on everyone to put justice at the center and he said that violence does not create violence some -- justice. tavis: tony bennett was one of the first non african-americans to be on the front line. he saw the horrors of combat as a soldier in world war ii. >> there has never been a good war. there has never been one. this is

talks about going to auschwitz and being brought up short and feeling the dark cloud suspend and dark spirits rise in his soul. he said he couldn't live in a world that knew that was a book involved, without also knows in the world is a bay bay bay bay n and a bach. he said storytelling, there's no better than garrison. [applause] >> barry lopez said storytelling is our only protection against forgetting the spiritual interior of our lives. and that's why stories are far more powerful than any other form of articulation. and so when i am feeling myself slipping, i listen to prairie home companion, or i pick up my book -- [laughter] >> i do something and i'll close with, garrison, robert bly is here today. one of my favorite minnesotaens. one the beat voices of our time. i've done many conversations over the years with robert, not because i wanted to be hostile to him or challenge him, but because i wanted him to read poems to me. here's one he read some years ago. he wrote it soon after 9/11 when all of the talk was bubbling up about invading iraq. he wrote this call which was judith'

try i just brought you one picture these are folks on a day break from working the gas chambers in auschwitzst doesn't compute. we can't get the idea the context that we can get regular people, nice people that are unfathomable. and less in social psych it doesn't have to be so powerful. the context doesn't have to be so strong. this is a very benign one. this cable shows the percentage of drivers in different european countries who are willing organ drivers. what percentage are willing to donate their organs. the blue countries average 94%. the yellow countries average 14%. what's the difference in these countries? we have austria on one side, germany on the other, france, netherlands, belgium. the blue countries are the opt out unless you choose out. and the yellow is if you choose in you're not a donor. the transaction costs of opting in and out is signing the back of your driver's license and what we're seeing here, 94% of the blue countries we're talking people on the left and on the right and religious and not religious and young and old, men and women and all that doesn't seem to matt