so, how old were you when you went to auschwitz?hwitz, i was ten years old. and i stayed in auschwitz until liberation, which was about nine months later when we were liberated. >> smith: so we made a little announcement about the fact we were starting this project. i get a call the next day from a lady called eva kor. i didn't know her at that point in time. and she says, "i want to be one of those 3-d interviews." >> maio: "i want to be a hologram." >> smith: "--a hologram." i want to be a hologram. >> stahl: stephen smith, executive director of the u.s.c. shoah foundation, and his wife and colleague heather maio smith, were running the project. >> smith: i said, "well, i'm traveling, i'm very sorry." "where're you going?" "oh, well, i've got to go to new york. i'm going to d.c." "when are you going to go to d.c.? i'm going to d.c." turns out we were going to the same event in d.c. i arrive at my hotel, she's sitting in the lobby, waiting for me. >> stahl: when eva, on the right, and her twin sister miriam arrived at auschwitz, th

is that the road to auschwitz was a crooked one? maybe starting with hitler's anti-semitism and there is a debate amongst historians. when did they started it start in his vienna years or did it start in his munich years after world war one. i think it started with his vienna years because that's where he encountered for the first time a lot of choose in the city of vienna where he was failing as you know as an artist, when hitler came to power he very quickly began to exclude the shoes from german public life. in january 1939 he gave a famous speech before the reichstag. the german parliament which he didn't use very much where he issued his famous or infamous. you should say prophecy. he threatened a quote annihilation of the jewish race in europe unquote in the event of war. and added quote if international finance jewelry inside and outside europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war the result will not be the bolshevization both revisation of the earth and thereby the victory of jury, but the annihi

among the terms was auschwitz. users were able to post words, but the posts were not visible to others. a practice known as shadow banning. for more on the story, let's bring in an investigative reporter with mdr and a part of the team that uncover this. welcome to the program. can you tell us about how you and your team came across this? reporter: thanks for having me. it started with a tiktok account that is very popular, and the team noticed the comments disappeared for no reason. they took notes and then reached out, and we started to run an experiment, creating a list of 100 words that includedords my colleagues discovered, and those which are known to be banned on chinese social media. we then created test accounts and use those words and commented, and showed 19 out of thos 100 words were actually band on tiktok, those included auschwitz, but also terms associated with the lgbtq community, homosexual. anchor: you reached out to tiktok to ask why words like this were causing an issue. reporter: they told us t

and these people were sent to auschwitz. what's interesting to me, two thirds of the way down here and it says they were placed in inhumane conditions. here's the part that strikes me by. the government of vichy under the nazi occupiers. and sometimes in france they will say that yes vichy did this, sometimes they will do what they did here is that the vichy under the orders of the germans, and sometimes they say the germans did it, and sometimes they say the passive voice, 30,000 jews were deported. and for meet the language of this law you understand this, the way you create a historical memory of this is to be fascinating. this is the political debate that remains ongoing in france today. the extent to which you could write this off as being something done under nazi orders, or the extent of which you have to wrestle with the fact that much of vichy the's own antisemitism was driving the policies in the way that france behaved. i have to say for united states, this was not a high moment of high morality for us either. whe

he came to believe -- i was interested, what motivated the auschwitz guard? if i could understand that, then i could understand the opposite of that. i needed to understand it. there were plenty of auschwitz guards. that's something i'm capable of in principle. maybe there's an antidote it. i came to believe it was not least to be found in spoken truth. i really believe that. any attempt to -- there's no rationalization for me that i can possibly conceptualize that would justify bending what i believe to be the accuracy of my thoughts or speech to the dictates of anyone for any reason whatsoever. because i firmly believe that that's the pathway to hell. that's worse than death. so i'm not brave. i just know what to be afraid of. that's what i'm afraid of. afraid of not what to be afraid of and that's what i'm afraid of, and afraid not just for me but for everyone, because it's there for all of us if we just want it, and there's plenty of evidence at the moment that we do, and we might get there. that's not such a good thing, so part of the reason i've been do

and you will of this, for example, with the building of auschwitz we have documentation for practically every single contract that was given out to these people. we have evidence of the contracts, for example, of the companies that worked in the warsaw ghetto. we have lists and lists of these things but, again, after the war, most of these people got off scot-free because they said i have nothing to do with this. i didn't pull the trigger. i didn't kill anybody. with very few exceptions. you have horrific cases of some of the doctors involved in the euthanasia program and, indeed, in the holocaust itself being famous pediatricians or medical doctors in german society. i think one of the problems after the war was the disconnect between the mass of people who were involved in creating this horror and the misunderstanding it wasn't just those at the top who did this. it was many, many people involved but they were often cogs in the wheel. there wasn't the enthusiasm because we needed chemists and engineers. so a blind eye was turned to a lot of people who should have been questioned if no

what motivated the auschwitz guard? because i thought if i could understand that, then i could understand the offices of that. there were plenty of auschwitz guards. that's something that i'm capable of, in principle. maybe there's an antidote to it. i came to believe that the antidote was not leased to be found in spoken truth. and i really believe that. and so any attempts to -- there 's no rationalization for me that i can possibly conceptualize that would justify bending what i believe to be the accuracy of my thoughts or speech to the dictates of anyone for any reason whatsoever because i firmly believe that that's the pathway to hell. and that's worse than death. so i'm not brave. i just know what to be afraid of. i'm not afraid just for me, but for everyone. there's plenty of evidence that at the moment we do. we might get there, and that's not such a good thing. that's part of what i do to encourage young men, for example because i don't believe the fundamental motivation of the human race is corruption and pers

i thought, what brought about the auschwitz guard? i needed to understand that because there were plenty of auschwitz guards. that's something i'm capable of in principle, and maybe there is an antidote to it, and i came to learn that the antidote was in spoken truth, and i really believe that. there is no rationalization for me that i can possibly conceptualize that would justify bending what i believe to be the accuracy of my thoughts or speech to the dictates of anyone for any reason whatsoever, because i firmly believe that that's the pathway to hell, and that's worse than death. so i'm not brave, i just know what to be afraid of and that's what i'm afraid of, and afraid not just for me but for everyone, because it's there for all of us if we just want it, and there's plenty of evidence at the moment that we do, and we might get there. that's not such a good thing, so part of the reason i've been doing what i'm doing to encourage young men, for example, because i don't believe the fundamental of the human race is oppression. i don

, but never just reported that was -- who were being killed at auschwitz that only came much much later. why the new york times did that and also by the way what the washington post did too is that these camps are being discovered and they never reported that it was that they reported the people were being. murdered partners was happening, but then it never reported. there was -- or homosexuals or gypsies or poles or russians that were being that were being monstrously murdered these camps so when news breaks that pretty close to one another that mussolini is executed and hitler's committed suicide and people believe this what was the like. oh, yeah. well we the united states for a period we believe that hitler had a we had all during during 30s and during the war hitler had a double the look just like him a couples presley. yes, exactly. exactly. so we bought that but but when it was it was confirmed that it was he we know we were invading berlin. we were wiping out berlin renews in a bunker. we knew his days were numbered. so it just took it as i mean, obviously there's a great wonder

well, i would say imagine yourself in the position of an auschwitz guard who enjoys it. well, then, that will set up a -- quite the catastrophe inside you. because now you've started to contend with that, right, internally, because that's you. oh, no. really? that's me? no -- what is it? was it samuel johnson? nothing human is foreign to me. i think that was samuel johnson. i might be wrong about that. but that's what that -- that's what that means to take on that burden is that, yeah, this is -- all this catastrophe, that's you. and that tears you into pieces, to take that inside you and then to try to contend with that in a manner that integrates across all that catastrophe. but that's -- it's partly why i like the orthodox christians theology, certain aspects of it, because it concentrates to a greater degree than western christianity on theosis and that is the notion that the imitation of christ is to be total in some sense. it's like, there's something to frighten you if you want something to frighten you. you want to take the sins of the world onto yourself. you're

addis evyger choice, and she was a prisoner of the auschwitz concentration camp by the way, it's a very powerful book. i recommend this to everyone . she. it mentions the moment when they were taken out of the concentration camps, they were put on top of the boxcars of their prisoners. and inside, german troops moved in these cars, that is, this is the tactic of covering up the civilian population. it also repeats itself in a very surprising way. we have been surprised by this for a month now, but, apparently, there are some roots, sergey ivanovich, there is only one difference. yes, but i , if there was some kind of population in the concentration camp, yes, well, friendly to us, and so on, or is there guilty of something in front of the german authorities or ethnically guilty jews, and so on, it was all the same for them to be strangers. yes, yes, and they covered all their lives here, they hide behind people who they cannot explain, and in what they are actually strangers to you. this is time for a second, when some boiler is taken there, then, well, normal people. they are trying to

take the scene in poland where youth education center which is near auschwitz opened doors for a newing for places to live and work and for kids, of course, they may not have a full understanding of this but they know they left home and are in a new place with new kids, new colleagues, new school and this is what i want to show you on that point. a display of group kindness where italian students welcomed these refugees. [ applause ] >> that's a new day for them and one way we are seeing people decide how to engage wherever they are, wherever they can with this unfolding disaster. when they can enjoy the best? eggland's best. the only eggs with more fresh and delicious taste. plus, superior nutrition. because the way we care is anything but ordinary. ♪♪ ♪ you can never have too much of a good thing. ♪ and power... ...is a very good thing. ♪ we were alone when my husband had the heart attack. he's the most important ... thing in my life.ng. i'm so lucky to get him back. your heart isn't just yours. protect it with bayer aspirin. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspir

>> you know, you hear the story, my father-in-law, his parents were killed in auschwitz, and you heardenly you go to the borders and you see the tragedy, you see the desperation. you see the tears, you see the refugees running away. you see the pain. you see the despair, and you go back, there's no question about it. i mean, it's heartbreaking in 2022 that we have to see this again. >> yeah. >> do you think there will be a different response this time? we're seeing a different response in this moment, but as we continue along this road, as russia continues with its attacks and its invasion in ukraine, how are you feeling about what comes next? >> i think -- i don't know what comes next for us and for our kids. about the response, it took too long in 1940s to respond. i think ukraine is alone, is very alone now, and i would wish that somebody would be able to make peace between both sides and get both sides to understand the importance and the danger they're creating to the world and the pain they're causing to children, to women, to refugees, to families. it's so, so, so, so bad. it's

camp and she died and she and my father's mother were on the last one of the last trains to go to auschwitz and a week later. the war was over. so this little girl that her parents wanted to kept with him to protect died and dasha said something so sad when dasha originally talked to michael dobbs. she had said that the parents had decided not to send the sister because she had a broken arm. that was not the story because later dasha told me that it was because she was too young and then she would never forgive her parents for what had happened. another story of the choices that people make the the chapters that you have on tourism are really gripping there. there's really amazing detail of the transport that so many of your family members made including three of your grandparents and melina. if your parents hadn't made that decision to escape and to go to england that could have been their fate and yours, how have you dealt with that? well, that's the part, first of all, let me just say you the first question you asked me was, you know, i dealt with it all at the time. well, i obviously ha

i've laid a wreath at off which it's -- auschwitz. i've laid a wreath at normandy. and, madam speaker, americans don't want to go back to those days either. our boys sacrificed their lives in the forests of germany, the beaches of france, the hills of italy and the sands of north africa to prevent this very thing from happening again. that's why american leadership is critical. partnering with our trans-atlantic allies, we must muster the military, economic and diplomatic clout and might to hit this bully in the nose. bullies only respect clout and might. while europe and the united states were timid in the obama-merkel days, our collective leadership must fill the void now and push back once and for all against the assault against the sovereignty and freedom that we are witnessing in europe. if not now, when? if not in ukraine on the borders of ukraine, where, madam speaker? if we fail here, despots will race to trample borders around the world. and democracy and freedom everywhere will be in peril. madam speaker, i rise today to bring attention to how the internat

but when it's mass murdering, so it's our o free people, as a city that we are built or a new auschwitz000 people now doesn't have any supply of water and food. >> john: no question this has quickly become a campaign of terror and our hearts go out to everyone there, and the flow of weapons to the western part of the country continues. dmitri, thank you for sharing your story and best to you and your family. >> sandra: thank him for joining us. alex hogan is live on the polish border with ukraine. what are you hearing and seeing there? >> hi, sandra. more people continue to cross the border, something that we have seen every single day, especially so many cities struggling to have enough food and freshwater for their residents. a lot of the people i have talked to, especially mothers, say they are not going to take the chance that something happens to their child, with the bombings and the shootings, friends and loved ones who have lost their own children and they will not bury their child, that will not be them. so they leave, they come to another country where they don't speak the lan

hunger for 300,000 people and between hungerfor 300,000 people and what we had in treblinka and auschwitznd we are still asking because if the whole world cannot save people in mariupol, all the world united around ukraine, if we can't save the people in mariupol what can we do? is anything able to get through to these people who are without any of these people who are without any of the supplies that are normally required? the supplies that are normally reuuired? ,, ., , ., �* ., ., required? the russians don't allow humanitarian _ required? the russians don't allow humanitarian convoys, _ required? the russians don't allow humanitarian convoys, we've i required? the russians don't allow humanitarian convoys, we've had l humanitarian convoys, we've had several big trucks with food and water but it's not going to the people and they are out of food. for several days they have some of them but a lot of people are out of food completely. the russians have already by my information have an order to kill all civilians trying to escape, just usual cars with a white flag, they shoot them down.

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