people's party the center right alliance in the european parliament why does it continue to treat feet aushev bonds party is a member or rather than a formally expelled it suspended it but it didn't expel and you know why it is the european union's budget to you to provide so these are the kinds of things that can be done but frankly so far european political leaders have been quite timid they issued a so-called protest when or by a stablished that's dictatorship but they didn't name hungary it was just a blanching eric statement of principle it was so bland that orbán joined it was you say it's a question of. accountability it's a question of pressuring hungry i want to get to that a little bit later but 1st i want to turn to surveillance now. that is another measure that we have seen emerged in this coronavirus crisis you have called coronavirus the new terrorism through that lens where is the balance between surveillance and civil liberties right now. well i think what's interesting is what we've seen over the last few weeks as the debate on this topic has evolved is that there's growing r