. >> aust ann, given those conditions and -- austan, given those conditions and what the stimulus package has the potential to do, do you now believe that there is a need for a second stimulus package? >> ceci, this was the biggest stimulus package in american history. bigger than "the new deal." and the large majority of that money is not yet out into the system. so it was set up to go in waves, as it will. and we've had this first wave of 10% or so of the money. there's still a major, major injection of stimulus that's coming down the pipe, so i really think it's too early to be saying we need a second stimulus until we've put the first one into the system. >> maybe we can pivot to the subject of health care. the president, of course, talks a lot about how reforming the healthcare system is, in his view, an important part of economic recovery in this country. late last thursday we saw some new estimates coming out of the congressional budget office on one piece of legislation up there, the senate health, education, labor and pension committee has got most of its legislation now drafted.