you cited the works of austal spencer, the decline of the west, you cite a given and the fall of the roman empire. you quote at the very beginning of the statement by henry kissinger about america's capacity to survive and prevail in this world and so i want to send it to you straight up somebody that is obviously very thoughtful and has done a lot of reading and thinking. do you think that america's decline in this world that you have described is likely and not what i'm asking the inevitable but given what you see today realistically would you say that we are on the downward slope? >> guest: definitely not. i think we have to recognize that there is a very strong strain of anticivilization, antiinternational border that goes back to the early modern age of the era and who says flat out there is no legitimate government anywhere except the revolution in an entirely new order, and i think that is inside like a virus emerging inside the present civilization we need to recognize, but recognizing we can overcome it and reducing without consciously thinking so again and again we see some