austan goolsbee, let's talk about it? >> the president proposed it but let's be clear, the president has proposed many times expanding or making available the earned income tax credit for families that have more kids and historically the republicans have not been for that precisely because the president has been for it. >> let's talk about taxes. that's on the ballot in a number of states, whether it is nonbinding illinois ballot initiative to tax wealthy individuals or the tax businesses in nevada. what's your take on taxes this election season? >> unlike minimum wage, tax ballot initiatives are not very popular so it will be interesting to see what happens. in illinois, as you mentioned, it's purely advisory and whether the next governor will even want to heed that advice depends a lot who is elected the governor. it's a close race. i think that one is more in the meaningless category but it will be interesting to see the take in a pretty angry electorate. if you look at the polls, people are not in a good mood, even in

austan? >> i'll say 212. >> 212. you want to rationalize that for us?, i just -- as i said, i think growth hasn't been as good as people want it to be. i think we might get a little less than what folks are hoping for. >> i don't know if you can see it. it is movember and we're giving everyone a mustache. you're looking sporty in that mustache. rick? >> if the number is good, joe is going to attribute it to the republicans winning. >> no, no. if it's good, it's the reagan tax cut. >> that's what you would done if the democrats won. >> rick santelli? >> 204,000. >> you're playing "price is right" rules? what are you doing? >> just bought 204 bonds. >> i see. okay. what do you have today? >> i have to say 210,000. there it is. >> oh, he tried to make it bigger. i see. joe? >> i don't play lame, stupid games where people give me some stupid thing to -- that's what i say. i'm happy. i'm alive. it's a great country. the election is one of the wonderful things about a democracy. i'm happy. this is what happens if it's a bad number. i'll be sad. you know what?

people ranging from robert gordon to austan goolsby, john gruber. melissa: oops. >> austan goolsby. is a good guy, a friend of mind. shows inepttude of obama administration on this one point. he will go out and do mass amnesty for immigrants at a point where his signature program is dying a death of a thousand cuts by public relations and probably by the supreme court. the obama presidency is not just in trouble. it is done. >> name airport after this guy gruber, gruber international airport. melissa: what do you mean by that you guys? you guys. >> i defend. that we're only people covering up until now. past couple days other networks come on it. >> has cnbc covered it? >> i doubt whether they have. i doubt whether they have. melissa: they are hiring comedy writers. they don't have time to work on this. >> cnbc do the math on this. >> you know how tough cnbc is on obamacare, right? melissa: yes. yes. very, very tough. >> they recruit journalists for obamacare. just a little bit. melissa: speaking of nbc, "today" no show. the attempt to revive morning glory against rival "good mornin

people ranging from robert gordon to austan goolsby, to john gruber, my dear friend john wallace, who can inform what are some times a policy debate with a prophetic voice. >> if you were putting together this case, what one piece of evidence did you just notice. >> my ah-ha moment was when president obama didn't look down and read the name of gruber, he looked right into the crowd and said it because he knows him. >> this is why you want kimberly as your lawyer, bob. >> i tell you, the guy was giving a speech as a rookie. the speech was written by his staff. he's looking down at to the paper the whole time. >> are you on the democrats band wagon that they don't know who gruber is? >> i don't know who gruber is, i think he's a jerk to say this kind of stuff. if that's true, if you're covering that kind of stuff up, keep your mouth shut. >> you're mad because he told the truth. >> all it does is just give republicans a bunch of ammunition to keep shooting. >> that's why he will be ostracized. >> he's only a jerk, and he say he's not a jerk because he's recollecting what happened. >> he

many of them i stole ideas from liberally from robert gordon, austan goolsbee, john gruber.hat's right. you heard the president, turns out he knows jonathan gruber more than he would like to admit. earlier this hour we had bret baier join us. listen to what he said about gruber. >> it was a second quarter pep rally, not a circular firing squad. essentially a machine that kept citing gruber as objective analysis and would take the residual benefit saying this is the right piece of legislation. stuart: extraordinary, charles, the fix was in right from the get-go. >> the fix was in. what is interesting, no one ever picked up the comic book that gruber wrote. have you seen this thing? wrote it and started, seen some of the chapters? first of all 150 page comic book. how about this one. selling fear instead of facts. evil villain was rush limbaugh type character. just arrogance. it is, and then i really want people to look what he actually got paid for like the nih studies. something is wrong, stuart. they're all called same thing, same description. i think he rubber stamped thes

people ranging from robert gordon to austan goolsbee, john

people ranging from robert gordon to austan goolsbee, john gruber, my dear friend jim wallace here who can talk, i think -- who can inform what are sometimes dry policy debates with a prophetic voice. >> hello, everybody. i'm martha maccallum. president obama admitting that he sometimes stole ideas from jonathan imriewber, the economist who has repeatedly claimed that it was a lack of traps (is i combined with the stupidity of the american voter that helped the obama administration to get this bill of obamacare through the house and the senate. and republican representative kristi noem joins us now. congresswoman good to have you with us tonight. >> thank you, martha. good to be with you. >> poor jonathan gruber. a lot of people who knew him now pretending that they didn't know him. >> that's what is so offensive about this situation is that the white house, nancy pelosi and the president talking about his objective analysis. held it up as an example what they should craft their signature legislation after. now when they see what a disaster it is and what comments truly in the arroganc

brightest minds from academia and policy circles, many of them i've stolen ideas from liberally, from austan goolsbee, john gruber. >> i don't know if you have seen jonathan gruber's m.i.t.'s analysis. >> jonathan gruber is one of the most respected economists in the world. >> ah, that was then but now that videos have surfaced gruber calling you, the american people, stupid, they've quickly changed their tune. i'm no doctor but this looks like a case of political amnesia. >> you can talk to dr. gruber about what he said, but i don't have a comment about his comments. >> i don't know who he is. >> the fact that some adviser who never worked on our staff expressed an opinion that i completely disagree with in terms of the voters is no reflection on the actual process that was run. >> ah, mr. president, jonathan gruber, he wasn't just some adviser, he's been at the white house at least 19 times in recent years meeting with your top aides and even sat down face-to-face with you in the oval office back in 2009 for over four hours. and since then he's been paid by the taxpayers a half a million d

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joining us from chicago, austan goolsbee, you made the rounds all morning so you must be really trappedjobs number and what we just talked about, but the reality it seems to me these days is the public is becoming hit to all this stuff and they made their voices loud and clear, this economy is not where they think it should be or could be. >> i don't disagree with you. multiple times we talked about this, you are absolutely right that we have seen improvementss -pand there are areas of weakne like labor force participation. it did get a little better in this report and just like we but not an overwhelming number of jobs, if you are going along at a modest rate you can recognize there has been progress but it still doesn't feel fun. charles: the bottom line is i call what we have had so far back toward prosperity. a lot of people lost their house instead of a $2,000 a month mortgage payment payingg$1,500 a -pmonth in rent and then take i to not mall, with gasoline. wages. it is all about wages. how do we get wage growth? i would thinkkthe case has been mmde that you cannt get it with the

dinner or had a beer or whatever, it is not that way, and has not been in years, i wond for that list austan gave us, he believes can get done, he dii not say e excel or tax refo, which is the two we've been talking abouing about e said td immigration. neil: shea need t they need to t and have an italian meal or something, we know a couple of restaurant here, grow up. maria: the best. neil: more after this, more races to call, we can tell you that way it looking for republicans now, they are en rouue, and possibly ekeing control of u.s. senate now, it is not going to be a walk in. maria bartiromo, thank you. very much, yyu have been here since 4:00 a.m., like jerry lewis at the end of the telethon but we carry on here, fox@ business speciaa coverage of a big, historic night continues right after this. wanthard it n be... ...to breathe wi copd? it can feel like this. copd includes chronic bronchis and emphysema. spiriva is a once-daily inled... ...copd maintenance treatmen.. ...that helps en m rways for a ll 24 hours. you ow, spiriva helps me breathe easi. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromid