new things i've never seen before and that's been the story since thank you 97 and the ballad of austrade after the crash of 87 when alan greenspan gave a green light for the plunge protection team but to my question john and that the central banks can try all kinds of new things new financial engineering new quantitative a saying new repo write ballads. but at the end of the day it's just more debt somehow as you say the crisis is caused by that and the solution from these guys will be to increase that correct you know we're going to battle a debt driven crisis by taking on more debt which is what you said is what we've been doing since the the $990.00 s. at least with alan greenspan bailing out everybody in sight. and there's a limit to that but the limit is much higher than that originally seemed like it was you know because in part because an unlimited central bank printing press is a great tool for what would people in the beginning the world is basically ok and in part because it's global everybody has a fee a currency printed press so all the different countries can watch each othe