because of transportation from australi australia, -- >> you would probably save about $1 to $1.50 in terms of the price of shipping cost if you didn't have to go through sort of panama canal and that -- >> that is quite significant on something of that magnitude. yes, ma'am? >> if i can respond as well, it's important to note that the cost to develop the gas is higher as well so at the end of the day, based on a pure commercial transaction, you're paying less to ship it but more to pull it out of the ground. and that is why multiple commercial companies have walked away from that particular project. the chinese communist party appears to be interested. i have questions about why ch a china -- the chinese communist party is interested in a project that nonchinese commercial companies view as potentially not feasible. >> well, one thing i've read is that -- or been told. i know what i'm told, not what i know. is the chinese would be interested in building a terminal off the panama canal that they would ship gas to south america through that terminal. so, indeed, they would be purchasin