and so she launched this company which she actually sold to autodesk, i believe in 2012 -- 2011. >> 25eah. >> she's a rock star. >> yeah, she's incredible. she went to work for google ventures, and she said that was the first time she realized what a boys' club silicon valley was. she was so heads-down, you know, building her product, you know, getting money, getting financing and launching her company. so when she got to google ventures, she realized, oh, my gosh, there's so few women who are coming to pitch their companies for investment. what's going on here? this is really bad. she went back, as many entrepreneurs do, went back and started her second company which is a super cool 3-d virtual reality environment where you can actually walk around a room, and it's for home designs. you can, you know, take basically what you do is you take four pictures of, say, your living room. take four pictures from four corners of the room, send it in, they make a 3-d model of your room that actually looks like your room, and they give you different design concepts. so no longer do you have to pu