. >> with a 45-60 day -- >> i can't believe it because five years ag that software was avaible, so we didn't have -- objections were raised five years ago, and we were told that technology was available. you have testing in your testimony, testing began in 2007 incoming testing of eval-- including testing of evaluation of airports. when did you first notify congress you were going to deploy the equipment and it was fully tested? >> i'm not sure there was a specific time frame that we did that, congressman. i know in our budget request when we requested the machines and funding for them -- >> denied evaluation of testing at those airports? >> provided very substantial briefings and -- >> that was after the deployment? at least to my staff. >> that's possible, congressman. i don't know that we came up in advance of the point to everyone on the hill. >> are you aware of the latest testing of the equipment that gao conducted in december? we're aware of gao's testing as well as the other ongoing testing. >> do you feel that, again, what this remind me of is the puffers, the failure rate wa

the second pieces of that, more people in more ways, speaks much to the fact that we must be avaible wherever the audiences. even though they are listening to radio in record numbers, broadcast radio, we know that our audience is on other devices. they are on the iphone and the ipad, they are listening to pipe gas, so we aim to provide a very rich experience across all platforms. you will hear us rolling out plans to provide and make sure it that we create an entire package of tools and service and best practices, provide that to all of our member stations, so that every member station can be as relevant and robust one digital platforms as they are on the radio. our heart and soul as a network -- we're not trying to try everything, but that is our broad strategy. >> television has experienced tension by view of the time shifting, where people watch programs on tv are -- on dvr after the fact. is there is siificant downside risk for you and the way that a younger generation does not care about catching things live? >> the only risk is if we ignore what the audience wants. the audience