they are doing something for themselves and i'm here to assist avakian. >> this is great. we thank all of you for coming. if you're on that list commuter checks are available right in the back. mr. patterson will be there signing them for you. [laughter] in any case, thank you all. i want to thank you again. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> now joining us on booktv clive priddle, publisher of public affairs. what did i get started? be think it's her birthday today. we are 17. thanks for asking. >> how did it start? >> peter osgood started it. he wanted an independent nonfiction dedicated list that would continue in that tradition ever since. >> i should mention public affairs is publisher of c-span books. we want to talk to you about some of the upcoming fall 2014 titles of public affairs has. >> thank you a very happy to mention a couple of them. at first i want to mention is a book called city of lies. the author is a wonderful british radio journalist covering the genocide. a pulitzer prize-winning filmmaker and her journey has taken her into the southern part of