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talking to our good friend from the daily beast, john avalon about what all of the drum beating on wallans for the white house. stay here. one. two. and, three. [ male announcer ] with the bankamericard cash rewards credit card, earn more cash back for the things you buy most. 1% cash back everywhere, every time. 2% cash back on groceries. 3% back on gas. automatically. no hoops to jump through. it's as easy as one. -two. -three. [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards card. apply online or at a bank of america near you. >>> as we are closer to the bottom of the hour, let's look at system of the stories on the rundown that we are working on for you. yeah, coming next, police in oakland fire tear gas at occupy protesters and dozens of people arrested. we have seen their commitment, but what do the protesters really want? and are they the new tea party for the left? and boxing promoter don king is going to join me to talk about the republican presidential race and his support for occupy wall street. >>> and three days of the turkey earthquake, people are still being pulled from

you have people like bevan dufty, david chiu, even john avalon's common john campos, and ross mirkarimi, all had indicated an interest. so you have people on the board who want to run for mayor. do they go for the caretaker mayor, or do they put those interests aside and best themselves with a politician that has a good chance of being elected? with that dilemma in front of them, we saw what happened. they could not put their egos aside. they generally would with the caretaker mayor. that person would pose no threat of running against them. >> when the board met next week on november 23, the clerk of the board proposed a process for nomination for mayor, which the board debated, amended, and eventually passed. >> a board member read the nominated may not produce pig in the discussion or vote on the competitor nominees. if the nominee of a board member nominee has been withdrawn, the board member may no longer have a conflict and could return to the room and to dissipate. >> basically, a process that i am proposing is one in which, one, would maximize per dissipation. members of the boar

with us to talk about this really fascinating poll, former republican watts ted strickland and john avalonappreciate you all taking the time. what do you think? >> this is a big deal. herman cain in the first position place. nobody would have guessed that and perry dropping 20 points in the poll since late august. that's like a rock. the hermanator is doing well in the polls. >> that is taking the heat on the 9-9-9 plan and he didn't answer the specific questions. >> i don't think the posters and the people out there, the status quo bunch, i don't think they understand the depth and type of support that herman has. i still believe mitt romney is republicans like to elect next in line. now that mike huckabee is not in the race, the governor's next in line. so it will be interesting to see how it plays out. he has quite a ways to go and i think there are a couple other candidates we may keep our eye on. right now herman has momentum and i think it's real momentum. >> i want to ask you, like who we should keep an eye on but first to governor strickland. what's your take on this? herman cain n

. >>> let's bring in john avalon and jeffrey toobin to talk about that. political fireworks. we are going to get some because in addition to the news jessica broke we see an energy adviser that pushed for the loan raised a half million dollars for the president's re-election campaign. >> solyndra stinks and all of the e-mails show culpable and the wisdom of making the loans. however, to this piece of breaking news, the white house has already turned over 70,000 documents and 900 documents from the white house. the issue at end is what to do with the president's blackberry. it is unprecedented technology territory and that's one of the reasons it makes sense to invoke executive privilege to stop it from becoming a political fishing expedition. >> the blackberry new precedent here. >> when obama came president, people said don't carry a blackberry, people will suppress it. bad embarrassing news comes out at 6:30 on friday. i don't think it is going to i don't think this is going to be that legally controversial. if it's about the blackberry, this is the core of presidential dec

. >>> let's bring in john avalon and jeffrey toobin to talk about that. political fireworks. we are going to get some because in addition to the news jessica broke we see an energy adviser that pushed for the loan raised a half million dollars for the president's re-election campaign. >> solyndra stinks and all of the e-mails show culpable and the wisdom of making the loans. however, to this piece of breaking news, the white house has already turned over 70,000 documents and 900 documents from the white house. the issue at end is what to do with the president's blackberry. it is unprecedented technology territory and that's one of the reasons it makes sense to invoke executive privilege to stop it from becoming a political fishing expedition. >> the blackberry new precedent here. >> when obama came president, people said don't carry a blackberry, people will suppress it. bad embarrassing news comes out at 6:30 on friday. i don't think it is going to i don't think this is going to be that legally controversial. if it's about the blackberry, this is the core of presidential dec

david gergen, and john avalon and j.c. watts. david gergen, what do you make of this tough thing? can go down on the details anywhere here and cause all sorts of problems for the plan, but are they giving too many details or too few? >> no. this is the centerpiece of mr. cain's campaign. this is the most important pledge he's making. he's now risen to the top of the polls in many states and it's imperative that people try to analyze his group, we need other studies of this plan to determine what the real effects are, otherwise you're buying a pig in the poke. as a political matter, we've been arguing for three years whether we ought to raise taxes on the affluent americans. this plan lowers taxes on affluent americans and raises taxes on working people. >> he would say -- to that point he'd say no, that's not true, because they'll pay a $500,000 car and you're paying $9,000 of tax and the lower income you buy used cars and this is where the detail comes in. >> one big analysis said 84% of people will pay more taxes and they clarified it since then, but i think they've got a real p

gloria borger is cnn's chief political analyst, john avalon, columnist for "newsweek" and the daily beast. great to have both of you with us. gloria, since you're out in vegas, why don't you give us the sense, what was the response to ron paul's plan today, which, of course, in addition to the trillion-dollar budget cut in year one also included getting rid of several federal agencies. >> reporter: i think republicans are very interested in hearing what ron paul has to say. he's been a -- someone who's been on the scene for quite some time. but when you scratch the surface, erin, you see that he wants to eliminate five cabinet departments. he wants to cut spending back to 2006 levels. but when you look at that, that would mean severe cuts in things like medicaid, children's health insurance programs, and, again, once you look at the details, people are going to start raising questions about it. one other thing, he doesn't touch social security or, guess what, medicare. and those, even to this libertarian, seem to be sort of sacred cows, wouldn't you say, in an election year? >> that's an

with us to talk about this really fascinating poll, former republican watts ted strickland and john avalonappreciate you all taking the time. what do you think? >> this is a big deal. herman cain in the first position place. nobody would have guessed that and perry dropping 20 points in the poll since late august. that's like a rock. the hermanator is doing well in the polls. >> that is taking the heat on the nine hin9-9-9 plan and he d answer the specific questions. >> i don't think the posters and the people out there, the status quo bunch, i don't think they understand the depth and type of support that herman has. i still believe mitt romney is republicans like to elect next in line. now that mike huckabee is not in the race, the governor's next in line. so it will be interesting to see how it plays out. he has quite a ways to go and i think there are a couple other candidates we may keep our eye on. right now herman has momentum and i think it's real momentum. >> i want to ask you, like who we should keep an eye on but first to governor strickland. what's your take on this? herman cai

john avalon is a senior columnist for "the senior beast."ts are decisive. they're the fastest growing segment of the electorate. mitt romney has an edge. that is a big deal. something the obama administration is very focused on. >> and there's a lot of stakes where you have done the bottom line. you have more independents. >> that's right. one of them is massachusetts. that's why mitt romney was able to be a republican governor of that state. that's the kind of credibility. independents are closer to republicans on economic issues. democrats on social issues. but very importantly, the least religious cohort. so someone with big evangelical support will have a tough time making that sale to independence. >> john avalon, thanks very much. >>> a protest continued on wall street today. the far left and far right are all riled up. oh, there's the guy. if you didn't see the show yesterday, we went to the wall street protest. after an hour there talking to several protesters, i said what i believe on this show which is the mood was tent city meets

gloria borger is cnn's chief political analyst, john avalon, columnist for "newsweek" and the daily beast. great to have both of you with us. gloria, since you're out in vegas, why don't you give us the sense, what was the response to ron paul's plan today, which, of course, in addition to the trillion-dollar budget cut in year one also included getting rid of several federal agencies. >> reporter: i think republicans are very interested in hearing what ron paul has to say. east been someone who's been on the scene for quite some time. but when you scratch the surface, erin, you see that he wants to eliminate five cabinet departments. he wants to cut spending back to 2006 levels. but when you look at that, that would mean severe cuts in things like medicaid, children's health insurance programs, and, again, once you look at the details, people are going to start raising questions about it. one other thing, he doesn't touch social security or, guess what, medicare. and those, even to this libertarian, seem to be sort of sacred cows, wouldn't you say, in an election year? >> that's an inter

couldn't they have thought of one more point, right. >> john avalon, what do you think in terms of the three quarters of republican voters that are undecided. are they going to go bold or when push comes to shove, going to go more safe? >> it points to how disaffected they are with the field, the limits on mitt romney's campaign, the fact that he's stuck in the mid-20s, and the fact that no one's made the sale because people are feeling to anxious and frustrated and fearful about the future. people want major change in washington, but they want someone who can figure out a way to bring that change and bridge the divides that exist in politics. that's a tall order, but the responsibility of whoever's chief executive. >> gloria, john, thanks so much to both of you. if you're a republican running for president, you have an advantage, because you can come up with these big, bold ideas. because you're the guy trying to get the job. it's harder on the democratic side when the person running is an incumbent. but we wanted to talk democratic big ideas. and virginia center mark warner is adaman

john avalon, what do you think about the letter, what john boehner had to say, and what dooung about tim ryan had to say? >> the letter is a major step in the right direction. you've got 100 members of the house in both parties encouraging the super committee to go big. it's not just that. when you spoke to senator mark warner a year ago, he said there are 40 members of the senate that are also encouraging the super committee to go big. that tells me there's at least 140 people on capitol hill that get it. they feel the urgency with regard to our definite and debt, and urging the super committee to hit that $4 trillion number. boehner and ryan, i think that's exactly the wrong message to send. it takes away that urgency and the sense of real consequence that's going to focus the minds of people in congress. >> and people like jim himes, who has worked in the banking industry, because he understands this downgrade is not something to trifle with. if what tim ryan of reuters is reporting is the case, that's very, very concerning that it's okay to get more downgrades, just keep bringing

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david gergen, and john avalon and j.c. watts. david gergen, what do you make of this tough thing?and cause all sorts of problems for the plan, but are they giving too many details or too few? >> no. this is the centerpiece of mr. cain's campaign. this is the most important pledge he's making. he's now risen to the top of the polls in many states and it's imperative that people try to analyze his group, we need other studies of this plan to determine what the real effects are, otherwise you're buying a pig in the poke. as a political matter, we've been arguing for three years whether we ought to raise taxes on the affluent americans. this plan lowers taxes on affluent americans and raises taxes on working people. >> he would say -- to that point he'd say no, that's not true, because they'll pay a $500,000 car and you're paying $9,000 of tax and the lower income you buy used cars and this is where the detail comes in. >> one big analysis said 84% of people will pay more taxes and they clarified it since then, but i think they've got a real problem with this plan. >> what do you thin

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that somebody out there knows what is going on and will come forward to share that information then avalon does not know she will reach closure but she is making an emotional plea to anyone who can start -- helped start the healing process. >> maybe someone will remember sosomebody leaving out of here. maybe they did not realize what they saw. maybe this will bring back a memory. >> the palmer family will gather for a vigil tonight. if you have information, give police a call. a convenience store customer is recovering this morning after being assaulted by robbers in towson. two men armed stormed into it royal farms on east joppa road friday morning demanding money. there were quite a few customers in the store. after leaving the store, the gunmen robbed a patron in the parking lot. >> never know what will happen in a place like that. >> i got very lucky because i had my check in my pocket, too. >> the injured customer is expected to survive. if you have information on this robbery, called a baltimore county police. >> two juveniles have been arrested and police are still looking for the p

john avalon, senior columnist for the daily beast and ed rollins, former campaign manager for michele bachmann and james carville. what an honor to have you all here together. >> three muskateers we have here. >> we talk so much about these independents up for grabs in this election. independents, will they go for flat tax? >> the last time they polled, 37% compared to what? the current system only gets 19%. this could make inroads. independents do have an affinity for tax simplycation, this is simpler and considered more to the right. this will help perry a lot with the base, the real play. big idea, he's backing this flat tax because his campaign was flat lining. >> he needs to come out with something. what do you think? >> a snarl political move. his idea will never fly once somebody does the first distribution table. my question is why can't we do 15, 20, 25% tax? >> get rid of the loopholes. >> get rid of 0 everything and have 15% on $25-50,000 and have a progressive tax. forget that for the moment. i think perry did the smart thing for peridot do. the republican base loves it be

author john avalon sees the ad as harmless but not some of the other mistakes. >> it's worse reflectionher not only if that makes the candidates look bad, maybe makes the process look bad but makes our country look bad. >> interesting thing about the cain ad. it locked tens of thousands of views on his website. a lot of people don't understand it. but he certainly cultivated an image of an unorthodox candidate and that ad only plays into it, wolf. >> it certainly does. it continues to play on and on -- more than a million hits on youtuba lone for that ad. muammar gadhafi buried in secret and a new vow by libya's government to prosecute the man who allegedly killed him. and fears that iran's leaders have planted spies right here in washington, d.c. we're digging deeper on a congressman's call to expel iranian officials from this country. [ male announcer ] drinking a smoothie with no vegetable nutrition? ♪ [ gong ] strawberry banana! [ male announcer ] for a smoothie with real fruit plus veggie nutrition new v8 v-fusion smoothie. could've had a v8. wow! it's even bigger than i thought. w

john avalon, senior columnist for the daily beast and ed rollins, former campaign manager for michele bachmann and james carville. what an honor to have you all there here together. >> three musketeers we have here. >> the old man and the kid. i will take it. >> we talk so much about these independents up for grabs in this election. independents, will they go for flat tax? >> the last time they polled, 37% compared to what? the current system only gets 19%. this could make inroads. independents do have an affinity for tax simplification, this is simpler and considered more to the right. this will help perry a lot with the base, the real play. big idea, he's backing this flat tax because his campaign was flat-lining. >> he needs to come out with something. what do you think? >> a smart political move. his idea will never fly once somebody does the first distribution table. my question is why can't we do 15, 25, 35% tax? you could have a progressive simple tax, if you had to. >> get rid of the loopholes. >> get rid of everything and have 15% on $25, 50,000 and have a progressive tax. fo

. >> john avalon, what's your take? herman cain has the big mo right now. he has momentum. jumping 20 months in one month the pole. the same time that rick perry drops 20 points but there is another point, money and herman cain doesn't have a lot of it. he said he only had a couple hundred thousand dollars cash on hand right now. >> yeah, he did. here he is on that front about how much money he had. >> for the quarter we will report, first of all, no debt. you see i run this very tight like a start up business because that's my nature as a businessman. we are going to have, we will report at the end of the quarter several hundred thousand dollars of cash on hand. within the last week or so, our fund-raising has really picked up a lot because of the response of the public. so i don't know what that number is. i just know it will be very, very respectable. >> so basically, john, what he was saying is since the quarter ended and i popped in the polls i have more money and i will put out a separate press release because the

gloria borger is a cnn analyst and john avalon, is here. do you think that those 12 members get it? >> i hope so. because we really can't kick the can down the road. we need them to succeed. the question is whether they've been set up to fail. because the leadership put forward partisan members. congressman camp, when you asked, would you be open to some revenue increases? whether that can be achieved through lowering rates and closing loopholes, he didn't say no. it's obvious what needs to be done. tax reform, entitlement reform. you can lower rates, close loopholes and erase revenue to pay down the debt, the we is political will to do that. >> what do you think? i have to say it was interesting the democrats came out with a plan, republicans shot it down. that's exactly the kind of politics we don't want. they become more entrenched. >> here we go again. it's also interesting to me that congressional leaders on both sides of the aisle have started meeting privately with their proxies, if you will, on the super committee. because people who serve on the super committee know that th

gloria borger is a cnn analyst and john avalon, is here. do you think that those 12 members get it? >> i hope so. because we really can't kick the can down the road. we need them to succeed. the question is whether they've been set up to fail. because the leadership put forward partisan members. congressman camp, when you asked, would you be open to some revenue increases? whether that can be achieved through lowering rates and closing loopholes, he didn't say no. it's obvious what needs to be done. tax reform, entitlement reform. you can lower rates, close loopholes and erase revenue to pay down the debt, the we is political will to do that. >> what do you think? i have to say it was interesting the democrats came out with a plan, republicans shot it down. that's exactly the kind of politics we don't want. they become more entrenched. >> here we go again. it's also interesting to me that congressional leaders on both sides of the aisle have started meeting privately with their proxies, if you will, on the super committee. because people who serve on the super committee know that th