after 1992, sullivan took on around 30 of avellino and bienes' accounts. >> avellino and bienes kept their hands in the jar. the sec action was simply a bump in the road. it was... it barely slowed them down. >> smith: bienes denies routing clients through sullivan or anyone else. >> if they called me, i said, "listen, the only advice i can give you is call bernie, if you want to get... i don't know if he'll take you." >> smith: or "call michael sullivan." >> no, absolutely not. never! >> smith: now, why does that push a button? >> because it's not so, and that's what really bugs me. >> smith: but you got people saying that they were advised... >> i don't care what people say. they're lying. >> smith: but documents show that after 1992, former avellino and bienes clients began moving their money into partnerships that were michael sullivan's conduits to madoff. avellino and bienes also continued to invest their own personal money with madoff, and went on to amass fortunes. the avellino's bought this $4.5 million house in palm beach, and stocked it with paintings by degas, dekooning,