brown. and this same week, the doj released a report saying excessive force was prominent and went unpunished in the cleveland police department. let's bring this our legal guys, averyd. good to see you. and richard herman, a new york criminal defense attorney and law professor, joining us from las vegas. good to see you as well. so, avery, you first. a lot happening in your backyard. you and a group of lawyers, in fact, meeting thursday with the attorney general and justice officials to talk about the justice department's probe and its report about the cleveland police department, which comes right on the heels of 12-year-old tamir rice by a police officer. so what did the report say and what impact may it have on these other cases, federal investigations including ferguson? >> yeah, it's 158 pages, fredricka. and it is riveting and devastating. it demonstrates how poorly police have been supervised, the inadequacy of training, the failure of community policing, a multitude of issues. but if there's any good news about that report by the department of justice, and it's going to impact ferguson, it's going to impact new york city and other major departments, and tha