avery friedman is a law professor.minal defense attorney and law professor. welcome back. okay, richard, we're talking about allegations of sexual abuse taking place at oprah's south african schools but then the head mistress says the things oprah said about her management of the case means that her character was defamed. so therefore she is taking oprah winfrey to court. did i get it right? >> kind of right. a dorm matron at the school was convicted of 13 counts of assault and indecent assault, et cetera. students complained to oprah saying that the head mistress knew about it and covered it up. oprah's defense will be a good faith basis. it's her opinion. truth is always a defense in a defamation case. she relied on the students and let's remember, fred, the school is so personal to oprah, she personally hired the head mistress and not only that, she personally interviewed every student who was enrolled there. so if you think that oprah's going to lose a case in the united states, especially in philadelphia, you can

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