avery friedman, a civil rights attorney and law professor in cleveland. and richard herman, a new york criminal defense attorney and professor from las vegas. let's talk about the case here. the equal employment opportunity commission filed suit against bloomberg llc saying the news organization discriminated against women because it made the women choose work over home life. the judge threw out the case. but was this the right decision, avery? >> i don't think it was, alina. it's good to see you again, also. i want to say thank you. but 64 pages of analysis, i think what judge loretta preska who's a wonderful federal judge missed in this case is one of the secrets. men say to men what they never say to women. for decades and working in civil rights, it is true. the antiquated cultural view of women once they have children, putting them on a slow track is a reality. part of the anecdotal evidence in this case was that one male manager told a female f you don't make this deadline, i'm going to kill your children. and you know what? a man would never say th

avery friedman and richard herman in new york, criminal defense attorney and law professor from las vegas to see both of you. all right. avery, you first. this the fourth scheduled execution date. that is petition helping troy davis win some time and potentially freedom? >> well, the petition can't hurt. the georgia pardon and parole board really holds his fate. they will be meeting obviously in a short period of time. 663,000 petitions are important. i'll tell you, fredricka what's more important are efforts by former fbi director william sessions along with 27 other state prosecutors, federal prosecutors and judges who say there is some evidence, actual evidence of innocence. that's what the board has to consider. in fact, judge sessions published an op-ed piece yesterday in the atlanta newspapers there. i think the parole board is going to really strug toll make a decision. there are three new members. they rejected it in 2008. let's see what happens. >> so richard, has the parole board been at this cross road before that there may have been witnesses that recanted their story or juror

let's bring in our legal guys, avery friedman in cleveland. good to see you.nd richard herman, a new york criminal defense attorney and law professor joining us from las vegas. good to see you both. >> hi, fred. >> good to see you. >> avery, let me begin with you. prosecutors wanted to retest this dna that was used in the trial. but the judge rejected it. is this a small victory for the defense? and if so, in what way? >> well, it's not a small victory. it's an enormous victory, fredricka. what it really means is that the prosecutors understood that these court-appointed experts essentially blew up the dna evidence which is the centerpiece of the amanda knox conviction. they want to go back, retest it. the appellate judge re-evaluating the evidence said, i've heard enough. instead of permitting the prosecution to go forward, he said, come on back in two weeks. we're going to have closing arguments. and i think there's a lot of reason for amanda knox to be very, very optimistic about what's going to happen here. >> richard, this is very different from what peop

let's bring in our legal guys avery friedman, civil rights attorney in cleveland. hello.rnold richard herman, criminal defense attorney and law professor joining us from plantation, florida. okay, gentlemen, good to see you. good locations. >> good to see you. i call your name. >> come on, avery, come on, fred. >> you won't hear me sing, not again. >> we'll be your back-up. >> i'm sure you will when the cameras are off and the mikes are off after that. again, i'm hearing the voice. >> no escape. >> i'm trying to escape. what was i thinking. okay. now, let's talk about jaycee dugard. she already won a settlement from the state of california for the oversight, for the neglect, she says, for not coming to her rescue when all the signs are there. now she's going after the federal government. in what capacity, avery? >> under the federal tort claims act. when i saw this initially, fredricka, i was very skeptical about where it was going. when you see what happened, there was only a 25-minute interview 12 years ago and ignoring therapists and other probation officers recommende