aviation industry for 30 your, not at you're absolutely correct. in a sense, all the faa has to do is look at what it's done successfully with organizations like the airlines and others and apply those same standards ineg and the same rules to boeing. so they adopt -- it's not a blank sheet of paper is what i'm saying. they've got something they're drawing. question, i've been a strong advocate of national agencies drawing on the resources of the national academies. new technology enters a field, ai for example, because that's the one that's the technology du jour right now. i've always been an advocate that you have these national galleries right down the street right here with members that you can draw upon to basically go in and advise and give -- people that know a lot more about these subjects than any of us. and i don't -- some organizations do it more than others, but i think that's a resource that faa and nasa and other agencies don't use enough in my opinion. >> the national academy, i have just one good news, dr. de luis. faa has gone to national academy, and national academy has created community of experts for risk and analysis of tran