remember, the ipo would be for 16% owned by aviva trust. cgc will be the symbol if and when we have an ipo from chrysler. >> thanks for that update. phil lebeau joining us. forced to choose, dr. j., chrysler, ford, gm? >> ford every time. >> that chrysler deal will not happen. it's a bluff. >> you said first quarter 2014. >> it's not feasible. >> why? >> they're trying to extract more money from the ceo of fiat, the majority owner. this is the unions looking for a bigger share of what they end up getting for their stake. >> ford, i would choose ford every time. if someone asked you whether ford or gm was up. you would think that ford grossly outperformed gm. they are both up. >> investors betting it will need to lose service restrictions in iran's oil export, increasing global supplies, crude oil down, how much further could it fall? dennis garmin, joins us now on the fast line, dennis, great to have you with us. >> good to be heard, not seen this time. >> what is your take on the decline, in wti, a knee-jerk reaction? the reality of the si