dr. aviva chomsky welcome dr. tom sky. and we have heard a lot about this immigration crisis in europe since at least 2015. would you say that europe is undergoing a migration crisis at the moment? was it ever going through a migration crisis? well, you know, i kind of checked to the word the way the word crisis is used, and i see a strong comparison here between europe in the united states. that is, it's not europe or the united states that's undergoing a migration crisis. it's the countries that people are migrating from that are undergoing crises that are forcing people to migrate their under growing under going economic crises. they're undergoing political crises, they're undergoing military crises, they're undergoing climate crises, they're undergoing food security crises. and those are the people who are undergoing crisis and who are being forced to migrate and are then being told. oh, but we don't want you here because that would cause a crisis for us. we don't want to have to face the consequences of our profit liv