underestimate, and i have to say, i did all these figures, did all this research on the american pet -- avma who has estimates on dog owners, american veterinary, the pet products population, and i kind of went in between and my estimates are very conservative. thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker. >> thank you. my name is laura. san francisco resident for 14 years. i have three to four points i would like to make. point number one, this item should not be on the agenda today for reasons everyone has already stated. modified hours will not alleviate the adjacent home owners' concerns about all-day ambient noise, yet they will restrict public access to the park during required off-peak hours as determined by rec and park's own survey. this compromise, while understanding a way to resolve the issue, it's a lose-lose proposition, benefits neither side, and has no evidentiary basis. point number three, if the commissioners push forward, despite the concerns, i would suggest nothing less than 6:30 a.m. to 9:30 p.m. operating hours is reasonable. when i commute to work in menlo wash, i have to