i'm jim axelrod. we begin tonight in nepal where the police say more than 1,000 people are dead after the worst earthquake there in more than 80 years. the quake hit nepal, a small impoverished nation sandwiched between india and tibet in the himalayan mountains, around noon today. to give you a sense of just how strong this earthquake was the magnitude of 7.8 makes it 16 times more powerful than the earthquake that devastated haiti in 2010. mount everest is in 53 nepal, and the quake caused a deadly avalanche at the climbers' base camp. tens of thousands of people in nepal are now spending a chilly stormy night out in the open. here's charlie d'agata. >> reporter: it was just after noon when the killer earthquake struck and triggered chaos on the streets of the capital kathmandu. brick by brick, rescuers raced against time in a desperate search for survivors and any sign of life. but throughout the day, the death toll kept climbing. a security camera captured the terrifying moment the quake hit the e

i'm jim axelrod with a western edition of the broadcast. for more than half a century, it was unthinkable, but today, for the first time since 1956, an american president sat down for formal discussions with the leader of cuba. president barack obama and cuban president raul castro met in a small conference room at a convention center in panama city panama where the summit of the americas has been taking place. mr. obama total 83-year-old cuban head of state "we are now in a position to move on a path toward the future." major garrett is in panama city with the president. major, good evening. >> reporter: good evening. even before their historic meeting, president obama suggested cuban dictator raul castro set aside past grievances. instead, castro spent 48 minutes-- he was allotted eight-- dwelling on a century of grievances. but, he said mr. obama was not to blame. the two leaders met on the sidelines of the summit of the americas the first substantive talks between a u.s. president and cuban leader since president eisenhower's encounter,

i'm jim axelrod. we begin tonight in new hampshire, home, of course, to the nation's first primary, which is still more than nine months away. but for nearly 20 republicans who have either announced they will run for president or are contemplating a run, new hampshire is the center of the political universe this weekend. the state republican party is hosting a two-day conference so that new hampshire voters can hear from everyone from the front-runners to the little-knowns, all looking to get some traction. while differenceon issues ranging from climate change to social security to the economy divide many of these republicans, the most significant unifier is actually a democrat. >> this is hillary clinton's speech-- i'm sorry, this isn't my peach. >> hillary clinton must not be president. >> hillary clinton couldn't be here again today. >> i ran against the clinton political machine. >> when hillary clinton travels there are going to be two planes, one for her and her entourage, and one for her baggag

u >> axelrod: the backlash against espn reporter britt mchenry. what does it tell us about online shaming? and thinking caps on. a team of quiz wizards goes for the gold at the u.s. academic decathlon. >> grenada! captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news." >> axelrod: good evening. i'm jim axelrod. this is the western edition of the broadcast. we begin tonight in new hampshire, home, of course, to the nation's first primary which is still more than nine months away. but for nearly 20 republicans who have either announced they will run for president or are contemplating a run, new hampshire is the center of the political universe this weekend. the state republican party is hosting a two-day conference so that new hampshire voters can hear from everyone from the front-runners to the little- knowns, all looking to get some traction. while differences on issues ranging from climate change to social security to the economy divide many of these republicans, the most significant unifier is actually a democrat. >> this is hillary clinton'

safe this weekend.n >> axelrod: eric, thank you. it was a $45 billion deal that faced high regulatory hurdles from the moment it had been announced 15 months ago. but now that comcast has pulled the plug we're left with a lot of questions that jill schlesinger is here to answer. remind us what happened. >> it became clear regulators were going to block the dealcl simply because of the size ofwe the combined entity. this would have reached tens of millions of homes, 57% of the broadband market. c you can imagine a company thatc big could actually hike prices control content, even maybe alter the way we use the internet. >> axelrod: okay, but in this 15 months from the time the deal was announced until the time it was killed, streaming became much more popular. did this increase the pressure on the regulators? >> i think it probably did. and we saw these content providers like netflix really push back against the deal. also saw the content creators themselves through the writers guild of america push back.r the fear was this big compa

i'm jim axelrod. this is the western edition of the broadcast. we begin tonight in kenya where terrorists are promising an attack on a university that killed at least 148 people this week is just the beginning. the terror group al-shabaab now says, "kenyan cities will run red with blood." today, kenya's president, uhuru kenyatta, declared three days of national mourning promising he will respond to the threat in the fiercest way possible. >> our forefathers bled and died for this nation, and we will do everything to defend our way of life. >> axelrod: we are now hearing extraordinary tales of survival from some who managed to make it through the attack. debora patta is in nairobi with those, and with the gut- wrenching wait for parents who still don't know if their child is dead or alive. >> reporter: this is what the aftermath of a massacre looksth like, the agonizing wait to identify bodies at chiromo mortuary, relatives hope for a miracle. it seldom comes. s parents who do not find their children in the morgue come here to nyayo stadium in ken

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>> axelrod says there's no evidence. maybe there's no evidence because hillary erased them from her e-mails before she turned them over. this is going to continue and big picture, it could hurt hillary because she's vulnerable. she's already not a star politician in the sense of a candidate in the way that obama was or in the way that her husband was. she doesn't have that going for her. she stumbles quite regularly but she's got the money and she's cleared the field. this stuff continues to come out. i think you'll see other democrats sitting on the sidelines, elizabeth warren who say, you know what i think i can take her on. >> is there angst, kirsten, in the democratic party? >> i think there's angst in the sense that this is not what people want to be dealing with but i don't think there's angst by the idea that hillary clinton probably won't win and won't win. i don't think that there are any -- even if there are people who decide to get in there are not people who will be able to take on hillary within the democrat

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of may, we will visit live coverage of the cape verde -- the gaithersburg book festival with david axelrodthen we will close out may in new york city where the publishing industry showcases their upcoming books. on the first week in june we are live for the chicago tribune printers row fest, including our live in program with pulitzer prize-winning author lawrence wright and your phone calls. that is this spring on c-span 2's book tv. >> live today on c-span, "washington journal" is next. at 10:00 a.m. eastern, jeh johnson testifies before the senate judiciary committee. at noon eastern, the u.s. house returns with legislative business at 2:00. they will work on naming of u.s. customs port of entry in arizona and a federal land bill. coming up in 20 minutes, we will look ahead to the supreme court oral arguments regarding same-sex marriage with brian brown, the president of the national organization for marriage and evan wolfson founder and president of freedom to marry. our guest is david savage, the supreme court reporter for the l.a. times and chicago tribune. he will discuss what a rul

thank you, david axelrod. thank you, marcy kaptur of ohio. >>> coming up, that postal worker who landed his gyrocopter on the lawn of the u.s. capitol is in court today. that flight yesterday may have exposed some holes in our security, of course, but it also made a bigger point about how this country is letting big, dark, secret money run our politics. that was his argument. that's why he took the risk of flying into the capitol. >>> plus, as the supreme court gets ready to take up gay marriage, we've got the fascinating story of justice anthony kennedy, the swing vote on the court, about closeted gay man who was his mentor and may have been his influence. >>> and everyone knows income inequality is on the rise in this country, so why did the house of representatives just vote to give a huge tax break to america's richest 0.2%? they did away with the estate tax, that helped prevent a permanent aristocracy. and let me finish with the rank and file, america's quiet doves. this is "hardball," the place for polit

david axelrod. rights measures exposed visions in the gop's ranks.e again. cpac derided by many as being a far right enclave, good luck finding people passing out petitions banning gay marriage. because most of them are college students, most are young. there is a generational divide and jeb bush might have got caught in the middle of it. >> the problem for jeb bush he staked his candidacy on standing up to the right on immigration reform, on education reform. i wonder whether he feels he doesn't have the running room to defy some of the more strident voices in the party on other issues. this, of course, has been the problem for their nominees the last two rounds. john mccain and mitt romney were center right republicans but felt they had to make bargains with the right to be the nominee and they made themselves unelectable. jeb bush has to worry about that. >> time and time again. in the iowa debate one of the defining moments of the iowa debates when mitt romney went so far out there on immigration. so nobody could accuse him of being a moderate on

. >> axelrod: the death toll climbs after an earthquake rattles nepal and rocked mount everest.amage is catastrophic, and tremors kill dozens more in neighboring countries. protesters in baltimore staged the biggest march yet since the death of freddie gray, threatening to shut the city down. a fraternity from the university of florida is suspending after members are accused of yelling and spitting at disabled veterans. what's behind the nationwide spike in overdoses involving synthetic marijuana. and chronic illnesses have confind these kids to hospital rooms, but that doesn't mean their imaginations can't run wild. >> you can't let a little disease bring you down. captioning sponsored by cbs

. >> david axelrod was keeper of narrative, the narrative of barack obama who is so central to his. rubio understands and filled with emotion and as one of the things that's so met the candidates a lack. a sense of the trauma that comes from the human element of where they have come from. i do not think you can ride it back to the nomination or presidency alone but essential. >> he talks about and writes in his book about his family situation. his aspirations for middle class economics tax reform and educational opportunities. that is a powerful thing to do. the author leading candidates jeb bush, scott walker, they have a harder time. junk case it is able to take his own biography and related to the american experience. is powerful and he showed that. >> groupon to say that hillary campaign wants to party but the rubio campaign is different. marco rubio: our leaders put us at a disadvantage by taxing like it was 1999. a leader from yesterday -- [boos] marco rubio: she promised to take us back to yesterday. yesterday is over. [applause] and we are never going back. >> their rubio is

festival with tom davis and martin frost, as well as former senior adviser to president obama, david axelrodclosing out the month of may in new york city at the book expo. on the first week in june we are alive for the printers fast including our three hour in-depth probe -- program this spring on book tv. >> the fall of saigon was nearly 40 years ago. on april 30, 1975. next, the university of louisville posts a panel of south vietnamese refugees, including veterans of the south vietnamese army and air force, they reflect on the vietnam war experience and escape from the country following the fall of saigon. panelists eventually settled in kentucky. this is about an hour and half. >> i would like to introduce the moderators for tonight. dd and donald. they are amazing folks and they are the leading effort behind moving voices and this evening tonight. it is amazing to have worked with them over the last few in putting together this event. dd is a daughter of vietnam war refugees and an attorney. she is also u of l alum. and this makes me proud, she will enter the army jag core this friday.

and david axelrod, former senior adviser to president obama.ht, rebecca, the big question, the chicken and egg question, is the media unfair to hillary clinton, therefore hillary clinton and people in hillary land hunker down and act with this kind of like embattled attitude towards the press? or does the embattled hostility towards the press produce the bad relationship in this relationship? >> that's the chicken and the egg question and you have to go back so far to a different generation of press really the sort of embryonic stage to the early '90s when she was running at the first lady with bill clinton and was just sort of pummelled for all kinds of things. >> crazy stuff, too. things that were obviously sexist. >> oh yeah. but she was really new. and we forget how far we've traveled as far as first ladies go. she was a total anomaly on the presidential scene. she had a career and education that was comparable to her husband's. he tried to sell it as a two for one presidency. she represented a generation of women who had brought change tha

. >> >> axelrod: militants threaten another black box as survivors share horror stories of the terrorft nearly 150 dead. california's drought is so severe, some farmers say they can make more money selling water than using it. a sailor's remarkable story of being stranded at sea. is it too remarkable? an outbreak will dog flu in the midwest. five pets are dead shelters are closing amid fears it's spreading. and an iphone lost in new york turns up on the other side of the world in the hands of the mysterious orange man. >> who is this man and why are his pictures showing up on my phone? captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news."

first to david axelrod, let's talk about hillary clinton 2.0. they posted on "huffington post", a new epilog to hard choices, her paperback book. i wanted to read excerpts and tell me if you think she has the right tone there. just looking at it, she says, i wondered what a quilt of my own life would look like. so many people taught me so much. she's talking about a quilt sent as a baby gift when charlotte was born. now i have one more. charlotte already helped me see the world in new ways there was so much more to do and so many more panels waiting to be filled in, panels on the quilt. i folded up the quilt and got back to work. that in the new epilog is a big tease what she's going to talk about sunday on noon. is that the way to relaunch hillary clinton? >> as a new grandparent, i can relate what she's talking about -- >> congratulations to you. >> anybody who has a grandchild can speak to that. but kristen had it exactly right. in 2008 she launched this kind of clinton ink, this big jugger not and they recognized that was the wrong way to go

david axelrod, cooper and steve schmidt. mr. schmidt, let me start with you.ess the hillary clinton rollout. what did you think? we know governor mcauliffe is for it. >> it's so contrived, so inauthentic, it's almost difficult to articulate it. she talks about meeting real voters, but in the one instance when she walks into a store where there is an opportunity at chipotle to talk with voters, remains in silence in disguise behind dark glasses. bashes hedge fund managers while they are raising money from the $2 billion in donations from the hedge fund managers. the dissidence from what she says and reality is startling. all campaigns at the end of the day for president are a choice between change and more of the same. we've never as a country, once we made generational change, moving from the baby boomer generation to barack obama's election, have ever gone back. i think when you look at intensity of the republican fire on her, in this matter, talking about this is the future versus the past, i think it's a very cutting, very effective line of attack in the ea

have a good night >> axelrod: militants threaten another black box as survivors share horror storiesterror attack in kenya that left nearly 150 dead. california's drought is so severe, some farmers say they can make more money selling water than using it. a sailor's remarkable story of being stranded at sea. is it too remarkable? an outbreak will dog flu in the midwest. five pets are dead shelters are closing amid fears it's spreading. and an iphone lost in new york turns up on the other side of the world in the hands of the mysterious orange man. >> who is this man and why are his pictures showing up on my phone? captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news."

♪ sleep train ♪ ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ >> axelrod: the death toll climbs after anand rocked mount everest. the damage is catastrophic, and tremors kill dozens more in neighboring countries. protesters in baltimore staged the biggest march yet since the death of freddie gray,fr threatening to shut the city down. a fraternity from the university of florida is suspending after members are accused of yelling and spitting at disabled veterans. what's behind the nationwide spike in overdoses involvingh synthetic marijuana. and chronic illnesses have confined these kids to hospital rooms, but that doesn't meanha their imaginations can't run wild. >> you can't let a little disease bring you down. g captioning sponsored by cbs

. >> axelrod: the death toll climbs after an earthquake rattles nepal and rocked mount everest. damage is catastrophic, and tremors kill dozens more in neighboring countries. protesters in baltimore staged the biggest march yet since the death of freddie gray, threatening to shut the city down. a fraternity from the university of florida is suspending after members are accused of yelling and spitting at disabled veterans. what's behind the nationwide spike in overdoses involving synthetic marijuana. and chronic illnesses have confind these kids to hospital rooms, but that doesn't mean their imaginations can't run wild. >> you can't let a little disease bring you down. captioning sponsored by cbs

as well as senior advisor david axelrod. we will close out may at book expo in new york city, where the publishing industry showcases upcoming books. in june, we are live for the chicago tribune printers fast. we will take your phone calls on that. that is this spring on book tv. >> they passed a bill last week to protect companies from lawsuits if they share information on cyber threats with other companies or the federal government. the bill also creates the cyber threat intelligence integration office, tasked with analyzing reported threats. here is some of the debate from the house floor. >> of a last several years cyber attacks have become a pressing concern for the united states. home depot, target and other companies have been subject to major attacks, resulting in the compromise of personal information of employees and customers alike. dave's, whether hostile foreign agents or money seeking criminals, have accessed medical records and credit card numbers and published confidential e-mails affecting tens of millions o

jim axelrod with more on why their passover will be especially poignant.e of manhattan. essentially a decade ago this area was teaming with jewish immigrants who would come here in search of a better life. among the last of the families still operating here this matzo family, streit's but not much longer. the one constant in new york city city is change but since 1950 you could always count on the streit family. aaron is the great grandson of aaron streit the austrian immigrant who started the business. >> it's almost like this is an obviously thriving business but it's a little bit of a museum. >> walk in and turn the clock back 60 70 years and that's what life was like here. >> reporter: but this summer that, too, will change. the last matzo factory in new york city is moving. >> you know this day and age, we would design one. >> no one would design one without a proper loading dock. hard to believe fwu the world's second largest producer of matzo still loads its boxes in tractor trailer s trailers idling outside at the curb. no matter how celebrated it

jim axelrod is on the lower east side. >> reporter: business is strong at this matza factory, but theg." say ♪ ♪ with kaiser permanente you'll connect with your doctor any time anywhere. another way care and coverage together makes life easier. ♪ become a member of kaiser permanente. because together, we thrive. ♪ . >>> good evening, i'm joe franklin, coming to you, as always, by good friends and sponsors beverages by hoffman, martin paints it ain't just paints, matza, the unleavened experience of a lifetime. >> unleavened bred. jim axelrod met the family behind it-he's on the lower east side to show us why their passover will be especially poignant this year. jim, good morning. >> reporter: well, good morning from the lower east side of manhattan. you know, a century ago this neighborhood was teeming with immigrants. among them many jews from eastern europe who had come here in search of a better life. well, among the last of the family businesses from that era to still be operating here this matza factory, striet's but not for much longer. the one constant in the neighborhoods of ne

style contributing editor nick axelrod is here to tell us how to clooney our closets.ey. teaching at columbia. we're so captivated by her look. is it the air of classiness? what is it? >> she's our princess. she's as close as we have to royalty in america, and she's lebanese/british. she's classic, beautiful, dresses perfectly for every occasion. >> she can go classic and elegant and funky day time. reminding us she's a young woman. >> she's cool. she's hip. >> let's cloonify our closet. up first, a floral pant. >> so this is a big floral. we like to say, pick one thing. so you're going to do a crazy pant? this is not crazy. it's floral. it's a big pattern. keep simple on the top. black on the top. party on the bottom. it's a mullet kind of thing going. >> i love it. can we pull this off at work? casual? >> i would do it wherever. work. add a necklace for going out. >> absolutely. a nice look. and then our next look, daytime cas. amal wearing jeans and a leather jacket when she visited her husband on the set of his new movie recently. there we see her looking really aw

david axelrod, senior adviser to president obama, and michael 1250e8, both msnbc political analysts. hold on there, michael. the party seems to be generally hawkish, they always are, they want to protect their property here, but why -- does rand paul have a prayer of being an old-style libertarian that 4re9's do it in america? >> i think he does, and i think it goes to a bit of what how should said previously. i listened to that section of the speech on foreign policy very careful. what i took away was a hawk with common sense. he's not out here saying we're not going to engage in the world, we're not going to protect the interests of the united states, but we are going to apply common sense to those situations, which you hoe he tried to distinguishes himself from barack obama? type of rhetoric about drops a nuclear bomb, americans don't want to hear that. i don't care what your sometime is. at the end of the day i really don't believe the american people think that will solve or problem. >> do you think they'll take offense? >> you have a billion-some people saying you want to nucle

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i hate to admit as a democrat i believe david axelrod when he said the president was always in favor of gay marriage but wasn't always honest about it. >> right. that he lied about it. >> misled is another word we use nowadays, politically correct. but secondly if we look at the founder and the leader of christianity christianity, who was jesus, i think he would serve pizza at a gay wedding. i think he'd talk with these folks and pray with them. i think that's true christianity and the way i thought when i was in the church. >> yeah. megyn, just to -- >> picture jesus at the gay wedding. jesus has been on tv a lot this week. i'm trying to picture that scene. >> jesus always said go forth and send no more but he never ever took of those services that is either with a prostitute or the other sinners like the tax collectors, so on and so forth. sin does not mean you cannot love someone. >> we can find out a lot more about jesus, tomorrow's good friday. and "killing jesus" is going to be right here on fnc beginning at 8:00 p.m. jesus will be here tomorrow instead of me. ladies, thank you

david axelrod who ran barack obama's campaign against steve schmitt's campaign that year describes it almost exactly the same way. he said that a presidential campaign is an mri for the soul. once you are officially running for president, you may like the political press in this country or hate the political press in this country, but if you are a candidate, you will receive so much scrutiny by the people that are running against you and the press that is covering it all that every single thing that is to be known about you will become known. rand paul right now is not even to like the first x-ray part of this campaign yet. and the press and his rivals for the nomination have only just started to even give him a once over at this point. so it's going to be really interesting to see, how long does he get to deep getting credit for being a brave criminal justice reformer when he walks into the epicenter of a huge national discussion about race and criminal justice reform and he has absolutely nothing to say about it? similarly, there was just this astonishing visual today. rand paul in

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. >> axelrod, this was interesting to me actually urged hill troy act -- hillary to act more humble. how do you act more humble? you are or you're not. >> here's how you act more humble. go into the diner, and you walk around and talk to people. you shake hands you sit down, you ask them, ask them -- >> what's on your mind. >> what's the biggest issue in the state? i'm running for president. i'm going to be running here in this state whatever the state is please have somebody remind you what state is, don't get it wrong. i'm in iowa, i'm in oklahoma. what's the big issue here, in the community? maybe the traffic light on the corner, or the murder rate, or they may tell you it's the economy. >> here's the big question now a lot of people look at benghazi, they look at the money from saudi arabia and claims to be a champion of women rights, never criticized them for their -- >> man, i think -- >> that was a big issue. >> i think that one is like, you know, most knockouts occur when you walk into a right hand, or you walk into a left hand and it just knocks you out. she's going to get k

. >> quincy, hate to interrupt the axelrod. do you sound great. >> thank you lucy.nell is lucky to be here. everyone want to do a big cheer go chris? >> go chris! >> chris o'connell made -- >> hanging outwit kids here at modern day. ryan what's up buddy? i tell you, 475 students strong you're looking at the polar bears of modern day. this is what lansdale is all about, guys. the family the fun and we got ryan here. hey, ryan, you having fun? >> yes i am! >> what do you like about your school? >> polar bears is the mascot. >> they got the polar bears and guys you got to check out the cutest little -- the cutest little pep squad. let's see something guys! >> what's your name, dear? >> elsa. >> elsa? your name is elsa like frozen? >> we're at the fire station. the fairmount fire company here in lansdale, pa. >> we've been in lansdale all morning long. it was a little damp and drear to start but the weather has cooperated on this friday evening. that's the mayor. >> oh wow we have the mayor of lansdale just showed up. >> look at mike. mike, are you staying out of troubl

someone like david axelrod has also said that hillary clinton is going to have a hard time convincing investigators that she represents the future with her past. and, look democrats' problems are bigger than that not only is hillary clinton a polarizing figure. she is also entrenched in scandal right now. her lies are starting to catch up to her. as you noted with those polls, she is losing ground in key states and voters don't trust her. >> jessica glen thrush from politico. clinton campaign his words completely collapsing and she shouldn't even bother interesting the race. >> i disagree with that to say she is losing ground still in the margin of error with all a of those polls that came out today about this. rand paul should get a boost this week. he just announced. see if we get a hillary bump. she is still 40 plus points ahead in all of the democratic nomination polling and no one would thought the general would be be close. it shouldn't be. look what happened in the mid terms. it's not going to be signed sealed and delivered and i don't think so hillary thinks it will be. >> lis

joining me to provide inside analysis this morning are former senior advisor to president obama, david axelrod. kathleen parker of the "the washington post," helene cooper of the "new york times" and former senior advisor to john mccain's campaign steve schmidt. welcome to sunday, it's "meet the press." >>> good morning. lots of 2016 politics on the show. first breaking news overnight. a major rescue operation that is under way. hundreds feared drown south of an italian island of lampedusa, after a boat carrying as many as 700 migrants cam sized in the mediterranean sea between north africa and italy. kir simmons joins me from london. it is a fear most of these 700 already drowned. >> reporter: there is. good morning. that search and rescue operation is under way involving italian boats, the multis, navy and commercial vessels. the italian coast guard said 24 bodies have been recovered and 28 survived. one international organization is saying 49 are rescued and taken to sicily. the sinking boat capsized around midnight local time, which is more than 12 hours ago. the final numbers may be truly

it's like david axelrod saying she needs to act more humble. you don't act humble.r humble or not humble. acting i don't think is going to fly. you're asking her to be something she's not. >> and the third point -- clear she she hasn't won your vote, sean. and the third part is she's got to be focused on the future, not the past. too much of her reflections are going backward rather than forward. those are the three attributes she needs. in this first week, she didn't have any of them. >> all right, but matt, she's viewed as dishonest, untrustworthy by the american people, right? add to that, she claims to be, you know, isn't it time for a woman to be president? she's going to continue to take foreign money for the clinton foundation and takes money from countries like saudi arabia with atrocious women's rights records. and she's not giving that money back. she's not criticizing those governments. doesn't she have a vulnerability on this that's massive? >> i love one of the four points you brought up she's going to focus on in the future like frank is talking about,

. >> you know, i love that part in your book -- by the way, hell of a book "believer" by david axelrod. >> thank you. >> you talk about that critical moment when you had that debate. you may have been nervous about the president sticking his neck out and saying yeah first answer, yeah i think we should get to discussions with these people who don't agree with us on most stuff and may be dangerous and hillary clinton as a candidate saying no don't do it. he called you in your meetings saying stick with it no pulling back. i completely agree with you, that was the heart of the campaign right there with the president, future president. >> yeah, no no it definitely -- look he took a position that was difficult to take at the time. took a lot of opposition from our party and the other party, but he was very steadfast about it because his attitude was you don't resolve these situations by not talking. you have to talk to resolve these situations unless you're willing to accept war as the alternative in every instance. america has had a plenty of experience with that in the last dozen years o