role of russia meddling in this election from the dnc hacking and the suppose it does see does see ayaan trump? so what is your opinion of somebody who writes for an opposition source and obviously in russia people who are supporting putin who think it's ridiculous or preposterous. what is your own view of the extent of russia's involvement or meddling? >> thank you. i don't really talk about this because you have your opinion about this and he read a lot of articles about it but what i know and what i investigator for years, we have not a 100% -- [inaudible] but of course russia has an advantage to do this. that's my opinion. >> i will also say and i don't know what you will say about it but we have had the publisher and he probably would have objected that position. in the current russian landscape if you asked them about the position they would say they are not. a question right there. >> hi, jeff vaughn i'm at protective intelligence analysts for stratford. much of the talk has been dominated by the election hacking and information warfare producing an increasing number of hacks in western