. >> ayanna pressley, she's in the congress today, she's member of the squad. her words not mine.ny more black faces that do not want to be a block voice. we don't want any more brown faces that don't want to be a brown voice. literally word for word i'm not putting words in anyone's mouth. ibram kendi brought how to be anti racist. i wrote -- his sold more copies in mine. here's what it says, opening lines, the remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. the remedy to present discrimination's future discrimination. -- gas that you need to the stuff you just making that critical races stuff up, no, these are not my words. these are the words of the modern grant wizards of the modern. >> the man he's talking about there, ibram kendi, joins me now. he is the author of as mr. vivek ramaswamy say's, how to be an anti racist and is also the director of center for anti racist research at boston university. ibram kendi, thank you for being here. i want to get your reaction to what you heard him saying they're comparing you and congresswoman ayanna pressley to the modern gran

. >>> also, vivek ramaswami, republicans' new favorite toy, calls congresswoman ayanna pressley and author ibram x. kendi, modern grand wizards of the kkk. both of those esteemed people maligned by the wanna be mini trump join me tonight. >>> but we begin tonight with the absurd and the ridiculous. the national bobblehead hall of fame and museum is creating its own donald trump mugshot bobblehead. yes, that is happening. one of these unsmiling, scowling collectibles memorializing trump's history making georgia arrest can be yours for a mere $30 plus shipping starting in january. they even mention the iwill be individually numbers, i would try to hold out for bobblehead number 01135809. and that is just one of the countless pieces of mugshot merch available for sale. trump himself is putting the mugshot on just about anything he thinks his supporters will buy. from t-shirts to coffee mugs to beer cozies to bumper stickers. better for trump to try to cash in on it now because he'll need the money for an extremely packed and expensive calbder with the twice impeached four times indicted ex-pr

for ayanna pressley to tell me because of my skin color i can't express my views, that is wrong, that is divisive. it is driving hate in this country. >> okay, that is a debate -- >> it is driving this country to a breaking point. >> -- that is a debate that is based on nonviolent discussion, which you just said you're using rhetoric, which you just said, she's using rhetoric. there is -- that's one thing, and another thing is to say that she represents and she is a modern version of a kkk, which as you know, was dedicated to the subjugation and violence against black people. how on earth is she a modern grand wizard of that kind of an organization. >> dana, let's be honest -- let's be intellectually honest and get to the heart of what this debate ought to be about. there is a world view that says that the remedy to past discrimination and present discrimination. that if you're black or brown, you have to have a particular point of view. that's from abraham kennedy and ayanna pressley, the people i quoted in my speech. >> -- but regardless when you accuse her of being a grand wizard o

had an interesting exchange with cnn's dana bash as he defended his remarks about squad member ayanna pressleyfter she attacked we don't want any more brown faces that don't want to be a brown voice. >> how are in any way your views talking about comparable to the views and atrocities committed by the kkk. >> the grand wizards of the kkk would be proud to hear what she has to say. nothing more racist than saying that your skin color predicts something about the content of your voice or your idea. >> you didn't say. >> for ayanna pressley to tell me because of my skin cholera express my views it is wrong and divisive. >> that is a debate. >> final thoughts, joe? >> well, i have no idea why anybody would go on cnn at this point. did you go there not for an interview and to discuss issues. it's to debate somebody from the democratic party. and danna barb clearly is an activist more than an journalist at this point. martin luther king says we need to judge people by character not the color of their skin. that is vivek ramaswamy's point at this point. in that interview and he did very well there as

he responded to a 2019 comment made by congresswoman ayanna pressley where she said we don't need anywant to be a brown voice. he compared ayanna pressley to it the kkk and what do you make of that and the campaign arc, especially from the debate? >> well, certainly, he's defending those comments. he's drawn criticism for that. and i think part of what's happening is that he is now getting -- as he gets more attention and this happens in races, you get more attention past statements, past comments as we said before, draw more scrutiny, he's certainly getting more attention, interviews. people asking more questions about past comments in his books, or past comments on the campaign trail. that is likely to continue. and certainly didn't shy away from trying to be provocative. and statements to continue. and but maybe faces the same problem i think, that we are talking about which is he's really tried to present himself as a trump-like candidate, while still praising former president trump and like many of the candidates in the race saying he would support him if he were the nominee, eve

joining me now, congresswoman ayanna pressley, democrat of massachusetts. congresswoman, thank you for being with us. i must begin tonight with your reaction to the races smashing in jacksonville. as we mentioned, it left three black people dead. police say the gunman was very active posting anti black in antisemitic sentiments and the massacre is now being investigated as a federal hate crime. president biden, who will be meeting with the eking family and civil rights leaders on tomorrow or on the 16th anniversary of the march on washington put out a statement this afternoon saying white supremacy has no place in america. for his part, florida governor ron desantis also said this afternoon targeting people by their race has no place in florida. he was quick to condemn the shooter as a coward and a scumbag. i would be remiss if i did not point out the rise of hateful attacks, such as the one in recent years, has coincided with government desantis and others trying to erase black history. trying to eliminate affirmative action and diversity programs from sch

we know that ayanna pressley will be on your show in just a few hours for. now on politicsnation. thank, you rub, for that. perfect time to pivot back, everyone. we're going to go back to jacksonville, and we're going to be listening to the sheriff d.k. waters who is speaking today, right now, about the shooting in jacksonville. take a listen. >> before the investigation is completed, this briefing is a only citation a verified information. i want to begin by honoring the three precious lives that were lost yesterday. angela michel car, 52 years old. and old joseph, or a.j., junior. 19 years old. gerald does sean galion, 29 years old. yesterday, homicide detectives notified victims of family members but continue to pray for those who were lost to this maniacs acts of senseless violence. the medical examiner positively identified the shooter as ryan christopher paul matter. the shooter was 21 years of age when he committed yesterday's atrocities. he lifted his parents in orange park, and clay county florida. to our knowledge, he had no criminal arrest history. as i said yesterday,

for ayanna pressley to tell me because of my skin color i can't express my views, that is wrong.ve. it's driving hate in this country. >> in 2019, pressly has said that the democrats don't need, quote, any more brown voices that don't want to be a brown voice. and quote, any more black faces that don't want to be a black voice. >> lloyd austin offered condolences to the families of three marines killed in australia. >> the u.s. and crews worked together to transport the injured to a remote island to a hospital center in darwin. the military says 23 marines were flying in an opposite pree when it crashed. and many of them were injured, five severely. >> let's go to angus watson standing by. you're not, frankly, getting much information on this, are you? >> reporter: well, max and bianca, to give you a sense of how remote this location is that the rescue effort and the now recovery effort has been taking place, it's some 50 miles off the coast of northern australia. the crash happened on a hillside in thick shrub land. a very sparsely populated area. so that has been hampering the

joined me on "state of the union" and stood firm on comments remarks from a black congresswoman ayanna pressley. >> it is the same spirit to say i can look at you and based on just your skin color i know something about the content of your character, that i know something about the content of the viewpoints you're allowed to express for ayanna presley to tell me because of my skin color i can't express my views that is wrong that is divisive. this is dividing our country to breaking point. >> that is to say she represent and a modern version of a kkk, as you know was dedicated to the subjugation and violence against black people, how on earth is she a modern grand wizard and that kind of organization? >> let's be intel lec it actually honest and get to the heart of what the debate ought to be about >> great reporters here to dissect this with me. oh, boy. where do we start with this? look, it is -- we know what he's doing and we know why he's doing it. this is a candidate who wrote a book about being anti-woke, he has made a name for himself for a lot of reasons and one is by putting throughout

he said ayanna pressley is the modern kkk because i don't even know if i can understand why they're the i guess they want to do things for black people? your thoughts. >> i have never met someone who has more tattletale energy than vivek ramaswami. i have never seen anyone who looks like they remind the teacher we were supposed to have a quiz more than him. he wants to get rid of the fathlessness. you know what's going to take you away from your kids? running for president and failing. he's sump a silly person. i have to say this on tv. he loves trump so much, but i would hate to see what would happen if he found out that trump disliked him on a republican debate stage. do you understand, do you understand the irony of this young brown man just simping for this old white 6'3" 215 pounds of twisted steel and sex appeal. it's so interesting. >> that's a good word. >> so interesting he wants to be the puppet. >> we want to go with interesting. susan and jay, he said he has tattletale injaerj, and i love it. we'll be right back. . now i can be myself again. blue-emu supports healthy muscles

among them, elizabeth warren and bernie sanders, ayanna pressley and alexandria ocasio-cortez.n to stand in the way of your initial student debt relief plan, you have additional tools to provide relief. we urge you to continually find ways to use your authority to bring down student debt. martha, the administration has pressed ahead with debt con sellation, as you mentioned, two days ago, the white house shared details on a new income-driven repayment plan that slashes monthly payments. the plan will cost taxpayers and estimated $475 billion over ten years. that's according to the penn wharton business model. the administration also announced plans to forgive $39 billion in student loan debt last month. that prompted a lawsuit. i think here, martha, it's same to expect more push-back ahead in response to this recent letter from the 90 democrats. republican representative lisa mcclain from michigan that serves on the committee for education and work force, she told fox business, they, the democrats, want to cancel loans and make american taxpayers flip the bill. it's an abuse of

this is important, while some prominent democrats like congresswoman ayanna pressley of massachusetts maui wildfires on climate change, the data indicates otherwise -- othe otherwise. wildfire management organization protection plan warrant that lahaina was among maui's most fire prone areas because of its proximity to the parched grassland and frequent winds. experts argue that there's currently no evidence to suggest that climate change played a role whatsoever in the hawaiian wildfires. noting as far back as 2014 it has been widely reported that the danger of a likely wildfire in maui due to several factors was indeed possible. but as you know, when it comes to the headlines, especially online headlines, they do change throughout the day. and it has been suggested, trace, that abc just wanted to clarify its reporting. >> trace: there's always that. kevin, life for us in dc. thank you. ♪ ♪ >> trace: herc and hillary is now category three storm. hilary is on track to head toward southern california and the southwest this weekend bringing damaging winds, heavy rains and the possibilit

then on cnn ramaswamy doubled down on comments he made on friday about democratic congresswoman ayanna pressleyf the quote modern kkk. he told the host this. i stand by what i said to provoke an open and honest discussion. >>> still ahead, we'll turn to sports, and we've got a walk-off in williamsport. we'll show you an inkreable finish to theer little league world series. and a spectacular world gymnast. she's back. that's all straight ahead. gymna. she's back that's all straight ahead. (jen) so we partner with verizon to take our operations to the next level. (marquis) with a custom private 5g network. (ella) with verizon business, we get more control of production, efficiencies, and greater agility. (marquis) so our customers get what they want, when they want it. (jen) it's not just a network. it's enterprise intelligence. (vo) learn more. it's your vision, it's your verizon. i'm jayson. i'm living with hiv and i'm on cabenuva. it helps keep me undetectable. for adults who are undetectable, cabenuva is the only complete, long-acting hiv treatment you can get every other month. cabenuva is t

. >>> also, vivek ramaswami, republicans' new favorite toy, calls congresswoman ayanna pressley and

calling congresswoman ayanna pressley and author ibrahim candy quote, grand wizards of the modern --amaswamy was asked by reporters about his remarks, and he doubled down. saying those individuals he named and the whole movement would make them proud. now, we'll have congresswoman pressley on a show -- to give her reaction to being called out. but what does this tell you about how he's choosing to run his campaign, even as his profile is rising with republican voters? >> shock and awe. shock and awe, reverend al. it's so interesting you would say this now, versus using the campaign stage. if you notice, not one of the candidates brought up matters of race during this past debate. woke and anti wokeism was missing, i was really waiting for it. it never happened. but now off of the debate stage, ramaswamy decides to throw these glaring racist hones at a congresswoman who is about the people, and working for the people and helping the underserved. but it's so ironic that he would say that, because the new head of -- federal haynes, said -- cold rhonda scent is in an interview recently w

he calls congresswoman ayanna pressley, quote, modern grand wizards of the modern kkk.f color what is to say his numbers went up after that debate? what does it say that those numbers go up after he says this? he's taking on the mantle, saying, i'm a younger donald trump here. what does that say about the fact that his numbers go up after seeing stuff like this? >> that this party is steeped white supremacy. you don't have to be white in order to have allegiance to white supremacy. that is ramaswamy. we have to understand that reality. we cannot pretend these people aren't races, that they don't want a country that is about white power. they do. >> stuart, it is our panel, i was which at more time with you. thanks for being here, i appreciated. up, next it's manic monday. tomorrow, former president donald trump finds out of his federal trial and washington d.c. starts before after the 24 election. it's absurd, i know. a florida judge will be deciding whether meadows can move his cares to court, it's illegal mess. it straight ahead, you're watching the katie phang show o

tonight we will be joined by congresswoman, ayanna pressley. we've got a lot more coming. up you are watching our second hour, it starts right now. ur, it starts right now. welcome back, i am lindsey reiser, if you are just joining us welcome, if you are still with us, thank you. the tragic and painful loss of three black americans targeted by a gunman is being targeted by full of hate. it has left the community of jacksonville devastated. >> i wake up today and the only thing i can say is that those three people were gunned down because they were black. we are in 2023. and we are dealing with racial issues like this. it is devastating. it is absolutely devastating. >> those broken hearted words from florida state senator, tracy davis, who represents the county. straight ahead, i will talk to another leader who runs that district on what can be done to prevent another tragedy like this. as well as her reaction to governor desantis's word on the tragedy. we are also hearing from the sheriff who gave us an update in the last hour. >> the manifesto is quite frankly the diary

tonight we will be joined by congresswoman, ayanna pressley. we've got a lot more coming.starts right now. welcome back, i am lindsey reiser, if you are just joining us welcome, if you are still with us, thank you. the tragic and painful loss of three black americans targeted by a gunman is being targeted by full of hate. it has left the community of jacksonville devastated. >> i wake up today and the only thing i can say is that those three people were gunned down because they were black. we are in 2023. and we are dealing with

advisor when he wins the presidency, and then he like in the progressive democratic representative, ayanna pressleygrand wizards of the ku klux klan. you just said to people, to black progressive people, are like grand wizards of the ku klux klan. and by the way, he said climate change refugees, of which at last count, there was an estimated 20 million, simply don't exist. you believe social welfare programs are incentivizing young women to abandon the idea of a nuclear family, and has convinced them to avoid traditional marriage. ramaswamy has been gaining on desantis in recent polls, those still trailing trump by about 50 points. he was cheered and booed and faced heavy criticism, and gained lots of new donors. true, his presidential bid is still a very long shot, but eyes wide open as we see a brand-new conspiracy theorist start taking the spotlight. so, no matter what, i'm running this kitchen. (vo) make the switch. it's your business. it's your verizon. (vo) ninety-two percent of students in high-needs schools can't afford essential school supplies. subaru and our retailers are there to help b

strangely, ramaswamy responded by reading quotes from democratic congresswoman ayanna pressley, and bestsellingmodern grand wizards of the modern kkk. now, when pressed further by nbc news about whether he was directly causing pressley and candy grand wizard of the kkk, ramaswamy took ahead of it, saying that the whole movement with wit pressley and candy are associated would make the kkk proud. this is not the first time that the entrepreneur turned presidential candidate, with incendiary comments about race during his campaign. during a town hall in iowa earlier this month, he referred to juneteenth, a day marking the end of slavery, as a, quote, useless holiday, end quote. just last, week he blamed the destruction and death caused by the hawaii wildfires on diversity equity and inclusion programs. joining me now is the aforementioned doctor ihram ex candy, professor benny director of the boston university center for anti racist research. candy is also a new york times bestselling author of multiple books, including the new york times bestseller, how to be an anti racist. abram, you and i hav

for ayanna pressley to tell me that'se viewpo because of my sk color, i can't express my views. that is wrong. itofy skin is divisive. is wrong that is driving hate. that is a debate. bread. divide >> that is a debate breakinge d' point. we don't need any more blackdona faces that don't want to stand up for the black community. something to that effect is the comment he was responding to. meanwhile, afterin he went viral for performing the eminem song,m one eminem song on the campaign trail, the wake has now been sent a cease and desist letter b from rapper eminem. sure, he's realleey scared. anyway, in the nfl hall of fame, running back o.j. simpsonl to endorse vivekh this weekend, saying the guy really would have a chanc e anyway. 2024 gop candidate vivek ramaswamy joins us withus reaction. >> how are you, sir? n: goo >> it's good to see you, sean.ih how are you? good. i think you'veink deal dealt wie issue of of your battle with congresswoman pressleof yy a lot over the weekend. i don't think we need to rehash all old ground. i want to go over some of the issues, though. you

squad ayanna pressley responded and said vick put her life in danger. >> the verbal assault lobbied againstyself and dr. kennedyrm tis shameful. it is deeply offensive and it is dangerous. it is not that long ago that wen were a besieged by images of bee white supremacist carrying tiki torches in charlottesville. it was not that long ago that a white supremacist mob seized the waving confederate flags and erecting, an nooses on the t lawn of the capitol. e >> now, the squad's terrified of debating whether democrat policies are effective. that's the last conversation any democrat wants to havets. a conversation about results. that's dangerous. 'swhat democrats prefercially is racially bullying people into tribesin and thenin cobbling together tribal coalitions to achieve power and patronage. they can't allow minority voices to be successfuanl outsie of their tribe shows that it's possible. it showsac people thinking for themselves and independent thought. th that's the greatest threat to the democrats political stranglehold on america's minorities. job >> now, if anybody has a jobcort in cor

in the house, ayanna pressley has filed a discharge petition, meaning she is gathering signatures andse. if they get to 218, the speaker, kevin mccarthy, cannot block the e.r.a. from coming to the house floor for a vote. in the senate, we have 53 members of the u.s. senate who support the resolution to recognize the equal rights amendment, but it is that six people threshold that is keeping it from getting to the floor, -- 60 vote threshold that is keeping it from getting to the floor, a filibuster. if it gets to the floor of the senate, it will pass. it will get to the floor of the house eventually. this movement is not giving up. it was 100 years ago that alice paul first introduced the east -- equal rights amendment as an idea. the idea and fight by the suffragists to vote for women. they did not have the vote and were powerless in the civic arena of our country. but we needed a guarantee that there could be no sex discrimination in the laws and the application of the laws. host: i'm sorry to cut you off, but i want to ask really quick, what practical changes what it in initiate in

in the house, ayanna pressley has filed a discharge petition, meaning she is gathering signatures andse. if they get to 218, the speaker, kevin mccarthy, cannot block the e.r.a. from coming to the house floor for a vote. in the senate, we have 53 members of the u.s. senate who support the resolution to recognize the equal rights amendment, but it is that six people threshold that is keeping it from getting to the floor, -- 60 vote threshold that is keeping it from getting to the floor, a filibuster. if it gets to the floor of the senate, it will pass. it will get to the floor of the house eventually. this movement is not giving up. it was 100 years ago that alice paul first introduced the east -- equal rights amendment as an idea. the idea and fight by the suffragists to vote for women. they did not have the vote and were powerless in the civic arena of our country. but we needed a guarantee that there could be no sex discrimination in the laws and the application of the laws. host: i'm sorry to cut you off, but i want to ask really quick, what practical changes what it in initiate in