hornberger he's founder and president of the future of freedom foundation and in islamabad we cross to ayesha siddiqa she's a pakistani political commentator and author of the book military incorporated inside pakistan's military economy all right folks cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want you know different points of view and i want my viewers to see it but first tell us about the arab in this key strategic relationship where relations between the u.s. and pakistan have never been smooth after the fallout from the u.s.s. nation of osama bin laden the state of the alliance has gone from bad to worse admiral mike mullen one of the most pro pakistan officials in washington has referred to the country as the epicenter of world terrorism but his most recent remarks have added fuel to the fire. choosing to use violent extremism as an instrument of policy the government of pakistan and most especially the pakistani army and. jeopardizes not only the prospect of our strategic partnership but pakistan's opportunity to be a respected nation with legitimate regional in floor i