now, in the event i assume the office of prime minister, naturally aziza would step down. i don't think that is frankly an issue. aziza had to fight all these years, particularly the 10 1/2 years of my incarceration, and she deserves to be where she is. and my daughter was not given special treatment. she had to struggle. she lost time as a tunisia. she had to struggle, of course, to fight for the freedom of her father, but for democracy. and i think we have achieved that. >> anwar, i'm going to hold you what you just said about aziza your wife. really, she has to step down? are we in a new pro-women civilizational moment? why can't she hold on to leadership? >> well, she can, but that happens to be the consensus of party leaders. she knows that. and you know the king said one thing which is remarkable. the king repeated five times, he says, anwar, you have such a wonderful wife. you must never forget that fact. >> i hope she won't let you forget it. >> she struggled in your defense. and when i offered her -- the king actually offered her the premiership because she is of