b. diesel gate fingerpointing continues what about a diesel ban what's that going to mean to the carmakers because surely that's going to cost them. yes it is definitely going to cost them. car makers themselves and investors are afraid of this it's very difficult to estimate at the moment how much money this will really cost i found one so that talks about fifteen billion euros of cost but that's probably not enough if we consider that the cost of converting a diesel car to the new high. are standards one of those cars where the car makers cheated costs between two thousand and three thousand euros per car and that we have at least thirteen million diesel cars out there not so old ones which would have to be people who use diesels in germany not just motorists but also garbage collection services trades people and bus companies conrad i'll have to leave it there there's a heap to talk about on this subject we'll get back to you later on in the day. and i spoke business with you also you again very soon here on thank you. michel now that kitchen help. to. make the cost is that there's an o

b. w. appears to have risen from the ashes of diesel gate but didn't go too far in its tests with humans and monkeys remains to be seen how the company copes with the fallout from the latest scandal. well out of all testing is common in medical research development and other sectors and the tests themselves a vital vital for our health but where do scientists draw the line most experiments are carried out on mice fish rats rabbits even birds the monkeys to the number of animals used in tests in germany alone has risen every year from two thousand to two thousand and fourteen to a grand total of three point three million after the european union banned the practice in the cosmetics industry that figure felt over three million still has animal rights activists up in arms. but surely technology in this day and age would provide us with alternatives a word of warning the following footage may disturb some viewers it's pretty awful stuff it's also reality. this footage was shot covertly in a laboratory in the u.s. every year american labs do tests on more than seventy thousand non-human primates