b.c. barclays royal bank of scotland and the other for the banking criminality and they've all explode in their face so yeah detroit is america's gaza basically and look for that trend to continue they're going to wall that city and just start everyone to death and try to make a few bucks as a prison operator well speaking of the counterfeiting however these are this was counterfeiting payments to the pension fund because it wasn't real it's just debt they were just conjuring up debt putting it into the pension fund and saying they had met their obligations but then what happened is they got into a cycle of having to ever go back and repackage and borrow more money from wall street accumulating c.f. to feed they've paid over five hundred million dollars in the last few years in just fees to wall street for underwriting these new bonds to pay back the old bonds that they have almost defaulted on so they're in a cycle of ever winding bad debts right there like don't want to look at this guy larry summers should run along in the u.k. which is the charge five thousand percent interest rate th