i was five from bus drives from my peers i had to fight for every house call it the b.d.'s to make my house tonight happy. if i didn't then i was. beaten with bad words i couldn't bear it is this rort. you know it will so for afraid of we have had some speakers like yourself that they do all i received the nobel peace price here in norway would you like to continue work to qualify for that as i was bending you. i hope you have a good success of the hope you succeed did your work because it was reported for us is important for everybody you said to me this called friends. you are the type of horses we are very happy. to have you here thank you for coming in. the projects name is what we have a dream we haven't seen you see is that your dreams and your thoughts on your next experience can i have a day or so of course. you haven't had to ask you. i have to do you don't want to miss even if you think you can walk. off off off. so what's your dream. for the summer a. break and then i saw what i have. and sneezed and nobody has been like this gun and if. it's made to. act. like.

the boycott divestment sanction israel movement but you also think that this untied b.d.'s via the israel oath is counterproductive productive tell us why. as as many jews do i find myself increasingly aware of anti semites who also boycott israel at the same time i don't find the boycott itself to be anti-semitic i find myself unable to support it mostly because palestinian friends of mine who are after this in the west bank find themselves frequently at odds with the leadership of the b.b.s. movement so in that sense i find t.v.'s to be problematic both for jews and for passing in at this same time these laws are completely unconstitutional the idea that somebody should not be able to privately is a private citizen united states of america the place where you know free speech is supposed to be the ultimate in the world that a person should not be able to follow their conscience and a poem an injustice that we can all admit is happening to palestinians in israel in the west bank that a person should not be able to follow their conscience and in a nonviolent way protest an

you know you have to sit b.d.'s helps people see it i hope people see it up also most much of it as i can always because it's so important to me still there's another side to this story and that's just regular israelis some of them still come to our show they have them know like voted for netanyahu they're not for silence how fair is the to punish that people tell me that unfortunately still it's a huge majority of of israeli jews believe that the policies in relation to goes are and in relation to the settlements and lace and to do with romance and really a fight that unsettled. this is a big big. majority. of israelis maybe no not not israeli arabs who are but there are only twenty percent of the population so that eighty percent of the eighty percent there is a resistance and i know many of them. but it's not huge numbers. when take a break right now when we're back talking to roger waters the legendary musician activist co-founder of stay with. welcome to the crystal ball edition of crosstalk what can we expect

meeting with the stick in grozny really me and who would go but if there were season by b.d. to let. the russian forces have the right if they claimed to protect the people it was not i would say show up.

but what it also did was it empowered a generation of fighters to go on and fight elsewhere so b.d. fought in libya in two thousand and eleven. he then comes back a few years later and perpetrate an atrocity against british people many of the people that he fought with alongside in libya in two thousand and eleven then went on to fight in syria. they may well have been trained by british backed forces in libya in two thousand and eleven before they then went on to fight in syria with the al qaeda affiliate in syria. the other thing about the libya conflict is that as well as being a disaster for the people of libya i mean basically destroying a country we're living with the effects of that now but it did create. a training ground for terrorism the islamic state bases that were set up in libya after two thousand and eleven after gadhafi fell. with a base for the training of several jihadists who went on to conduct atrocities in europe so if you look at the paris attacks brussels attacks some of the u.k. attacks. they they all have a link back to the i asked camps in libya and those t

states have put in place anti b.d.'s legislation in recent years as of november twenty sixth states have twenty six states have laws preventing individuals and corporations from announcing a boycott of his really own businesses thirteen other states have also introduced or have similar laws pending for approval. senior political analyst says these policies pushed by pro israel organizations run counter to american values. america without its freedom of speech america without its fundamental principles of democracy is no more than a junior partner of china america will be worthless without its democratic principles and freedom of speech and the sort of laws been extra enacted in texas and elsewhere are an offense against the freedom of speech the freedom of americans to express themselves as they wish to work at whoever they want to boycott in that way in that way and manner nonviolent as it is but these sorts of laws are meant to curtail their meant to limit a certain public discontent with israel and its policies notab