babbin spoke about policy. that is the problem. you do not have a policy. the iran deal you spoke of. it was worked out with one administration and another and -- i administration decides he doesn't like them. he tears it up. it makes america look indecisive. they could be just. it could be an improvement of policy and methods on our part or on the part of who is in the white house. the problem is we do not have a continuous policy. therefore, we are still going to be running around as each administration changes. you say we have a trump or obama or bush part c or a clinton policy. why don't we have a u.s. policy that is continuous and has some consistency to it? host: thanks, james. guest: you raise an interesting point but that is the difference between a democracy and a monarchy. if you had a dictatorship -- chinese policy has been consistent over 50 years. russian policy over 20 years. democracy is messy and god bless us for it. we do not have the ability and should not have the ability to have one president tied the hand of another. if he -- the presid

babbin. jed babbin, you with us? guest: yes, here i am. host: glad to have you on the program.tart by asking you about that piece you had in the "washington times" on america's deterrence strategy. biden sabotages america's deterrence strategy. explain what a deterrence strategy is, how that fits in with national defense policy, or national security policy. guest: our national security policy is pretty much built around deterrence. you know, since the time of george washington, who said -- i believe he said, one of the best ways to ensure peace to prepare for war. deterrence intends to tell our adversaries that they will have unacceptable consequences, unbearable consequences, if they attack us or our allies. so all of our defense posture is built around that idea. we don't want war, but we want to make sure everybody knows, the bad guys know, if they attack us or our allies they are going to suffer. that is the whole idea. host: go ahead, yeah. guest: theoretically, everything is built around that. we should have a defense structure, a defense capability, diplomacy that is tou