for candidates and unfortunately didn't get very far in the process and president john glenn, bruce babbitt, vice president benson, president mondale, president dukakis, bob kerry, john kerry. [laughter] >> and for the national democratic institute i went to poland. [laughter] you ask a question of an international world class loser. [laughter] but the significant moments for me, i mentioned in that moment in the debate was a juncture in which people salles benson in a different way and saw his opponent for vice president dan quayle in a different way, and it developed out of that moment which is of the complaint about the sound bite aspect is not the fault of the candidate is the fault of the media and how the media presents and covers these debates but there was a moment to tell because the was a powerful moment, but it frames something people understood about the difference between the two candidates. and what their respective capacities were. and we leverage that and the dukakis-bentsen campaign has senator bentsen was seen as someone who had a legacy and history and capacity beyond a m