the next day, there was an op-ed article by bruce babbitt of arizona saying, "states rights should not be a dirty word." how come he can say states rights and ronald reagan can't? >> i will end with this. when i was writing about murphy of ronald reagan, "when character was king," a close friend of his sent me a videotape of reagan speaking. this was after he left the white house. reagan was becoming -- speaking informally on vacation with friends and they decided to videotape their conversation. they got on the subject of race. reagan talked about being young and how he came from a family where his dad was a big democrat and reagan was a liberal democrat. reagan said something that i quote in the book. i cannot remember it exactly. reagan said something about how if he and his brother ever came home and said something disparaging of another religion or race or different ethnic or religious group, he went like this and said, bam! my father would really pound me, like you would never do that. wasvery feel of his home none of that kind of ugliness. that i think was the beginning of him a