bacari, let's talk about this plan to sew division among democrats.amiliar? isn't that what bernie sanders did to hillary clinton in 2016? >> well, i can't just put all of the blame on bernie sanders. in fact, i think there were a few parties at fault. of course, you had russian meddling which we know to be a fact, we had the sanders campaign which was amplified, many of the bots and messaging so the discourse and division was amplified by that russian meddling. you also had democrats who to our own fault suk came to a lot of disinformation when many times we should have just gone out and found out this information for ourselves. we also had facebook and twitter, these institutions, social media sites that did not do a good job vetting the news they were purveying on their sites. so there was a lot of fault to go around. it's not just bernie sanders. as much as i want to put some blame on bernie sanders, which was not just him. >> alice, usually presidential re-election bids are about the incumbent in office, a referendum, if you will, on the presiden