we have to look at case-by-case bacees. in san francisco, we believe in institutions of higher learning. we are a city that has grown up with institutions of higher learning. i appreciate that and that has helped san francisco be the city that it is and there are certain ways we have to deal with each other and that's what we are talking about here today, not dealing with each other but how we can. under the issue of rent control, how are we -- since we say that they're not -- they may or may not be, but we are acting as if there are, is there a problem or a reason that they're not or we can't make sure that they are because they are an institution? does that stand? the way. >> no, the rent control board has said they are subject. the apartment units, that they have -- that they have purchasedr in fact, subject to rent control since they were built before 1978. and so the issue is how they operate and make available those spaces to students after they leave the university. and if they are allowed to remain in those units af

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