still has to get out of bachus's committee. if the argument is they're going to get republican votes. >> right. >> if they drop the public option couldn't republicans just make it all the more patently obvious that none of them are going to vote for this thing no matter what they do and then democrats can drop their hands and say fine. we'll do what we want and do a public option? >> that absolutely could happen and mibt the course they'll pursue. but right now it looks like they'll bow to the republicans and drop this thing. it doesn't make any sense why. >> democrats, when -- when senator grassley says health care reform is a plot to pull the plug on grandma, that's your signal that he's not going to vote for anything. stop giving stuff up to woo him. sorry. sorry. matt, thanks for letting me do that. contributing editor of "rolling stone" your article is really helpful. thanks as always. >>> okay. a big city mayor starts behaving like a super hero and has the injuries to show for it. and since when did a public appearance by

bachus added, meaning cameras. and he posited the agitateors were paid and probably from out of state. i could just sense it he said. first hint that some of the senator's instincts might be admirable but it is wrapped inside the caustic reminder this is the brain trust now running health care for democrats in the senate. meanwhile in another town hall event in dartmouth, mass last night congressman barney frank dismissing a nazi comparison as all such comparisons should be dismissed. >> they say we need to limit medicare expenditures in order to do that, in order to reduce the deficit. that's the origin of this policy. this is the t4 policy of the hitler policy in 1939 where he said certain lives are not worth living. certain people we should not spend the money to keep them alive. my question to you is why do you continue to support a nazi policy as obama has expressly supported the policy. why are you supporting it? >> i'm going to revert to my ethnic heritage and answer your question with a question. on what pl

roundtable discussions on health care reform last may senator bachus invited 41 witnesses to capitol hill to share their perspective on what ought to happen with health care reform. 41 witnesses over three days, not a single witness was scheduled to speak in favor of single payor. because single payor was inexplicably, totally beyond the realm of consideration, democrats ended up instead proposing something called a public option, a medicare-like plan that at least some americans could choose to buy into instead of buying private insurance. now apparently even that is off the table, too. we know that the president both when he was a candidate and well into the current debate as president said that a public option was a must. >> that's why any plan i sign must include an insurance exchange, including a public option to increase competition and keep insurance companies honest. and choose what's best for your family. >> must, he said. must. he has changed his mind on that now apparently. even max bachus, the won't even consider single payor conservative senator from montana who leads th

outside a town hall event in bozeman, montana democrat max bachus shouted down with chants of no, no, no and getting a little confused about the crazy things called video cameras, describing the protestors to "the new york times" as, quote, agitators whose sole goal was to intimidate, disrupt, and not let any meaningful conversation go on. there were a couple of people in the crowd with youtubes, mr. baucus added, meani ining camer. and he posited the agitators were paid and probably from out of state. i could just sense it he said. first hint that some of the senator's instincts might be admirable but it is wrapped inside that caustic reminder this is the brain trust now running health care for democrats in the senate. meanwhile in another town hall event in dartmouth, mass last night congressman barney frank dismissing a nazi comparison as all such comparisons should be dismissed. >> they say we need to limit medicare expenditures in order to do that, in order to reduce the deficit. that's the origin of this policy. this is the t4 policy of the hitler policy in 1939 where he said ce

senator max bachus of montana, good evening, senator.d to be negotiating all this out with the republicans and the hesitant democrats to gain bipartisanship with a wholly owned subsidiary of the health sector. bipartisanship that will get you what? a total of no votes? and your price has been, let's see, $414,000 in donations from hospitals, $667,000 in donations from insurance companies, just over a million from big pharma, and $237,000 from nursing homes. when you think of getting $237,000 in campaign contributions from nursing homes, senator bachus do you ever think about whether they subtract that amount of money evenly from all the patients suffering and dying in the lousy ones or just from a few of the lousy ones? so much for senator bachus. sadly, this list could go on almost all night, too. i could ask blue dog congressman democrat john tanner, tennessee, if since he has gotten $215,000 from hospitals over the years if i and the appropriate number of my friends were willing to make it $216,000 if we could buy his vote or would th

spencer bachus, not democratic senator max baucus of montana. oh, and congressman bachus later admitted he made a mistake and meant to say deficit. social security could face a deficit within two years. first chance at default would be 2037 so fox got the name wrong and branch of government wrong and political party wrong and the quote and fact wrong. there's been no correction. >>> dateline washington, number two best ex-politician oopsie. tom delay now affiliated with "dancing with the stars" on with chris, never mind for a moment he turned into one of those invasion of the body snatchers, conspiracy theory birther things listen for the blooper. >> will you do me a favor. ask him to show me his gift certificate -- i mean his gift certificate? his birth certificate. >> that's how obama can reform health care. send everybody a gift certificate. genius. genius, i tell you. and dateline la marque, texas, number one best politician oopsie. senator kay bailey hutchison vowing to make education a cornerstone of her candidacy for governor which she an

that leaves it to bachus to figure out the pesky details. white house aides point out his panel is the last best home to getting a bipartisan deal. the weeks of negotiations in washington have thus far come up empty. >> where is the white house on this now? what do they think they can get? >> reporter: they are hoping they can get a deal. they are hoping they can get what the president wants in terms of public option. it is looking like they have to meet in the middle. there is very little movement. white house aides in private say when congress comes back in september the window is going to close on getting a bipartisan dole. they have to move on to climate change, et cetera. they have to move quickly to meet the president's deadline of the end of the year. >> didn't they want to get something in october so they could have a full year before midterm congressional elections to campaign on this? >> reporter: absolutely. they realize also if you don't get it done by october, november, whenever congress wraps up the session for this year, once

. >> thank you and senator bachus for being true statesmen. because you know that back to the constitutional conventions, this government is run on compromise. and you two have done that. so thank you. >> thank you for doing the compromise with senator bachus. there are so many different philosophies and idea in america. i don't think any, any plan that comes out, will be acceptable to one part of the population or another to a very significant degree. and it's jealousy when somebody has something that you can't have, it bothers you. so i would look to suggest that there be one benefit plan for every american in this system. and then people who want to -- >> what's your question? >> then people who want to have other benefits besides that they can do something like the medicare supplemental insurance plans. so i would look to ask your opinion on that? >> both, both senator, well i shouldn't say, i shouldn't never speak for senator bachus. i feel in this area that maybe i can say that he and i are working toward something that is going to give

remember, grassley is on the same committee with senator max bachus who is also a very, very compromised senator, who has said 350 of the people who are working at the moment against health care reform are former members of congress and chiefs of staff and other staffers and half a dozen of them are senator bachus's. so there is a whole industry here working against reform. the president needs to stop acting as though everybody's interests are aligned. >> to that end never mind how mr. obama can do this but how can mr. reed the senate democratic leader continue to keep a straight face and treat mr. grassley as a respectable player in this issue after what he said today in front of actual, living, breathing people? >> well, he should not. actually, i think senator reed should actually call for a vote of censure on senator grassley. remember, republicans do that a lot. whenever a democrat says something which doesn't make sense, which crosses a line, they call for a vote of censure. what about calling for a vote of censure on senator grassley? he absolutely lied about what is in the bill a

. >>> the president's going to go on the road tomorrow, a town hall meeting in montana, max bachus'sl out a colleague and not giving the president what he wants, it would be max backus. what's the mission here? >> the mitts is none too subtle. carol lee tomorrow on politico is reporting that the tickets will be given out for the president's town hall on health care in a little different way, first come, first served, which means there could be more dissent and a little more excitement. people have said the president is good at asking questions, he should go ahead and take the tough questions, nobody is going to rattle him, and he doesn't get tagged with the suggestion he does, that the questions were too easy, because the people were screaming, so maybe a little excitement tomorrow night in montana. >> thanks, mike. mike allen from politico tonight with us on "the ed show." >>> what is your church doing about health care? anything? i'm calling on the leadership of the christian community to explain to me where they stand, and when it comes to helping the sick. i'll put to to our pane

senator bachus admitted that the republican leadership is "doing its upt most to kill this bill." trying to kill the bill, planning on voting against it, all the while somehow persuading democrats to make changes to this bill that the democrats don't purportedly really want to make. this is the character of the republican contribution to the health care debate right now. let's take a 24-hour snapshot of republican efforts towards bipartisan health reform. the health care reform is a secret plot to kill old people, right? david vitter of louisiana is apparently engaged in his own secret health care plot. instead of reforming health care in this country, senator vitter has a plan to destroy the health care system of canada. at least that's what he said. >> i'm for reimportation not because i want to import price controls, which canada has, you're right. it's because i believe reimportation will cause the pricing system worldwide that the big drug companies exploit to collapse. that system can survive. so my ultimate goal in terms of reimportation is causing that system to collapse.

bachus, is up for five minute >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. meyer, you described the proposed changes as incremental to the federal reserve. >> right. >> reading the treasury proposal on what they say about it -- they say this report proposes a number of changes to the formal powers and duties to the federal reserve including the addition of several new financial stability financial responsibilities. these proposals would put into effect the biggest changes to a federal reserve authority in years our decades. >> so i think you have to read the rest of the report and see whether you agree with that. i read the rest of the report and i don't see that there is this vast new -- now this administration possibly wants to look at this as a more sweeping set of proposals than perhaps it is. >> okay. but as the vice cirman said, this is not the case. >> okay. so actually you don't agree with their description of their own plan. >> absolutely not. >> okay. let me ask the panelists, can you function as a systemic isk regulator of significantly -- signifi

bachus. mr. bachus aye. mr.ye -- >> with that vote, the senate made history today, confirming judge sonia sotomayor. nine republicans joined the democrats, ted kennedy couldn't vote because of health reasons. what are the political consequences? time for "the fix." roger simon writes for the politico. let's talk ethnic politics. will this be a crashing defeat for republicans, people out west especially? >> this is a softball from the obama administration. she was such a traditionalist. and the republicans, all they had to do was maintain an even tone and not go after her, and basically actually win some points. >> did you think they went soft on her? >> not for political reasons. i think it's fair to vote against someone if you don't believe in their qualifications, but she was incredibly qualified. the tone that surrounded her. i remember watching those hearings. i felt uncomfortable. not only as a woman, but -- >> who bugged you? >> well, lindsey graham, when he started off his conversation by saying, i like h

look, chairman bachus has to hold his committee as he sees fit. this is a waste of their time. not going to get anything. the republicans are going to agree to. if by some miracle they pass something that did nothing, get 80 votes they come back and say we need 99 votes. incredibly important matter. this is a joke and this -- the national, it's an embarrassment to the senate. the last time the senate looked this bad was when blagojevich forced his choice of senator on them. they got to behave themselves and straighten up and fly right and get going here. this is a serious matter. the senators know it is a serious matter and they will pass a good bill if they can get their head screwed on light. chris dodd did a terrific job in ted kennedy's stead and passed a good bill in the pension committee. i know they can do it. they're one committee away and heavy's got it now. got to buckle down and get it done. >> you believe there will be a public insurance option at the end of the day once this thing passes. >> sure, because the american people want that choicement to you there's a po

max bachus says he doesn't want to put a bill out that will but that's the only way you can do that. >> well, i'm happy to answer the question. >> okay. thank you. >> look. you are absolutely right that i can't cover another 46 million people for free. 2/3 of the money we can obtain just from eliminating waste and inefficiencies and the congressional budget office has agreed with that. this is not something i'm just making up. republicans don't dispute it. and then the other third we would have to find additional revenue but it wouldn't come on the backs of the middle class. randy, i appreciate your question. the respectful way you asked it. by the way, i believe in the constitution, too. so thank you very much. >> that's right. no death panel crap. no feerp ar of the public popgs. the montana audience clapped. just a reasonable question about how to pay for it. a reasonable debate on both sides. president clinton speaking to the net roots nation convention urging progressive bloggers and online activists to get behind health care reform mr. clinton saying, quote, no matter how low t

. >> max bachus our senator has been locked up in a dark room there for months now trying to come upith some money to pay for these programs. >> right. >> and we keep getting the bull. that's all we get is bull. you can't tell us how you're going to pay for this. you're saving here. you're saving over there. you're going to take a little money here. you're going to take a little money there. but you have no money. the only way you're going to get that money is to raise our taxes. you said you wouldn't. max bachus says he doesn't want to put a bill out that will but that's the only way you can do that. >> well, i'm happy to answer the question. >> okay. thank you. >> look. you are absolutely right that i can't cover another 46 million people for free. two-thirds of the money we can obtain just from eliminating waste and inefficiencies and the congressional budget office has agreed with that. this is not something i'm just making up. republicans don't dispute it. and then the other third we would have to find additional revenue, but it wouldn't come on the backs of the middle class. ra

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. >> is the senate finance committee, correct me if i'm wrong, the one run by max bachus and is max bachushe one who has been one of the largest recipients of health? in other words where is the lobbying money going? now connect the legislation to who is getting bank rolled by doctors, hospitals, patients if there are any patient-based pacs, health insurance companies or anybody else. who's paying who to do what? >> well, yes. we do know that senator max bachus is the chairman of that committee, has received a good bit of industry support over the years. that's not terribly surprising. both democrats and republicans on some of these influential committees, so the senate finance committee, over in the house, the ways and means committee, the energy and commerce committee, those are the folks that tend to get a lot of those industry contributions because, frankly, they're always the ones that are passing or stopping the legislation that has to do with those industries. >> understood. here's the interesting thing. you talk about systems and i brought a bunch of dolls out here the other day an

. >> i want him and bachus to say here's where the money is. i am afraid where it is coming from out of our taxpayers' pock aets gen. >> reporter: today's townhall held in an an airplane hangar easily secured from the public. while the requisite protestors were gathered a half mile away, the demonstration never got out of hand. back at the townhall, mr. obama was also challenged by a man who sells individual health insurance. >> why is it that you have changed your strategy from talking about health care reform to health insurance reform and decided to vilify the insurance companies? >> okay, that is a fair question. my intent is not to vilify insurance companies. right, what i said is let's work with the existing system. >> reporter: all right, tomorrow ann, another townhall in grand junction, colorado, a conservative part of that state. but the tickets were handed out a little differently there. we'll see what kind of reception he gets. ann. >>> chuck todd tonight. thank you. >>> with perspective on today's townhall, we are joined by david gr

>> well, you know, senator grassley has been working hard with senator bachus and the other senatorse senate finance committee to try to craft a compromise piece of legislation that would have bipartisan support that would lower cost, protect your choices, would expand making it much more affordable and get rid of the material so senator grassley has been working on all of that for many, many weeks very hard. obviously he has a point of view about this. >> i tell you, i have to give the white house credit. you wonderful folks over there, you have more olive branching than probably anybody on the face of the earth. the final question i have tonight, linda, is this, does the president want dissenting voices at these town hall meetings? when he goats to montana or colorado, or are they going to be orchestrated? we haven't seen anybody get up and challenge the president. >> it's interesting they haven't. i think probably what that shows you is that most people want to engage in a polite, civil discussion. the president got some challenging question when is he was in new hampshire. he ask

told you when republican congressman spencer backus said the economy faces default in two years, max bachus of montana and he said i may face a deficit in two years, hannity never mentioned the correction. we thought it was just hannity stupidity. he is deliberately lying. last night he continued to repeat the quote. honestly if, the government had standards for news as stringent as it does for when you can call a beverage orange juice, fox noise would be car wash by late sunday afternoon. >>> challiss mcaffee arrest ford taking photographs of a home then said it was part of a foreclosure investigation. when the homeowner rejected pulling a .357 handgun on the man. he is not your average gun happy man. he is member of the eight county republican central committee, a member of the idaho state central republican committee and an organizer of the idaho tea parties. >>> and dateline in woodbury, minnesota, congresswoman michelle bachmann. once she is clearly not through. people need to continue to go to the town halls, continue to melt the phone lines if they're liberal members of congress and

you've got senator max bachus working the republicans but liberals don't quite trust him.dy's best friend chris dodd loved by liberals but doesn't have the kind of strong relationships on the republican side, so that void has been really felt over the last year, and i don't think it's going to be filled. >> george, thank you so much. you can see much more about short kennedy's legacy on "this week." george's guests are friends of kennedy, senator john kerry and senator orrin hatch. bill? >> well, kate, four years ago today, hurricane katrina had weakened. the levees had failed, and the governor of louisiaof louisianad a complete evacuation of the city of new orleans. many of those peel never came back and today the city is still trying to pick up the pieces. for insight where things stand today now joined by author, historian and new orleans resident jason barry. good to see you. thank you. >> forgive us for waiting to the anniversary to ask this question, but how is it going down there? how are things? >> well, it's surreal. you know, in some respects, it's -- the rhythms

. >>> plus, senator max bachus is attacked by the youtubes.nes investigates. >>> first, it's time for news from iraq and afghanistan. and life during war time. it was six years ago today that a suicide bomber crashed a truck packed with explosives into the united nations compound in baghdad. that bomb killed 22 employees including the top u.n. coordinator for iraq. it was the deadliest attack ever on u.n. personnel. today on this anniversary of that attack another tremendous wave of bombings in baghdad. nearly a hundred people killed, another 600 wounded. at 11:00 a.m. local time a suicide truck bomb hit iraq's finance ministry killing at least 30 people. the blast was so strong it knocked down part of a nearby overpass. then just minutes later a second, more powerful bomb tore apart the ten-story foreign ministry building killing at least 60 people and destroying part of a main highway. the explosion left a crater 30 feet deep and 60 feet wide. cars were seen burning in the streets. many with people still inside of them. elsewhere on the capi

they should be worrying chairman bachus that this starts not to sound like someone who's coming back to negotiate in september. if that's the reading they make at this point, then they really do have to abandon the negotiations and start thinking about what can they achieve by just pushing a bill forward with democrats? but that's the scary prospect because what you can achieve with democrats alone does not look good right now. >> evidently it doesn't because the problem seems to be coming from the democrats including the chief one at the moment in his op-ed over the weekend in "the new york times" the president seemed to make another appeal for bipartisanship. what he wrote was let's make sure we talk with one another and not over one another. has he misjudged who he is dealing with in this equation? even if you don't want to consider it a fight, just an equation? because this is the first time i have ever looked at him and politically wondered if he has any idea what's going on here. >> he has completely misjudged it but so has the white house. this is not his fault. he is followin

is he going to be like max bachus and want tax benefits?s a year? is it going to be $250,000 a year? thirdly, he's going to have to tell us how far is he willing to go? he going to go with just 50 votes to get it through the senate? he going to hold out for 60 votes? i mean, he's really got to clarify what he wants. this should not be difficult. he's one of the best communicators -- political communicators of modern times. he can do it. he's just unwilling to do it so far because he doesn't want to close off the options of the members of congress. i think that's a mistake. >> melinda, the polling still shoals the majori shows the majority of the american people want what he says he wants to give us which is a system to protect us with preexisting conditions, allow us to change jobs or lose jobs and still have health care which will allow people who don't have health care now to get some kind of break in getting it, which will get young people involved in the system and not just hoping they'll stay young and healthy forever. it sounds good b

you know, a lot of people talk about max bachus. max bachus pays attention to what people say in montana. he does. there's been single payors in his state. and this republican force is going to die. when grassley said the other day he pretty much admitted this was a farce, chairman baucus knows he has to get a bill out of this committee and if he only has democrats to work with, guess what the majority democrats on his committee favor a political option. if he's going to get a bill out of this committee with zero republican boats it's going to have to have a public option in the senate finance bill; otherwise, there isn't going to be a bill, right? and he knows there has to be a bill. so it matters what you say. it's one of the reasons i've been very careful not to criticize individual senators. i don't mind talking about their views because at the end, i think we're going to get almost every democratic senator. almost every one because there's not going to be any republicans. they're not going to be interested in forming the bill a

so what strength does the president have as we go into the fall to pull a max bachus or others on hish as we have seen in the poll numbers and power to push something through. it depends on the focus. we have seen the last couple of weeks with the attention on the idea of a public option which is just not going anywhere unless it's revived as they get together and try to reconcile the bills if they have the bills so he's got a problem with the base right now. and this is a -- this goes back to kennedy. kennedy would not be accused of selling out the left compromising on this because, you know, what he stood for over the decades. president obama does not enjoy that level of support on the left at this point so he's got to get back to a point where we's talking about bringing down costs and other compromises and then go out there and really sell that piece of it because that's where the centrist democrats are feeling the heat. >> david gregory, what do you have coming up this weekend? >> an hour-long look at paying tribute to senator kennedy. his unique relationship to "meet the press."

they see the world in similar ways and max bachus said to me, as sure as we're sitting here, within ten days or so we're going to lay down a bipartisan bill. that was about ten weeks ago. it's tough to do. democrats want to take it one way, republicans want to take it the other. i'm glad you have 6% of the senate to try to work something out today. >> have you checked that number? was your math right? >> it's 5% of the democrats since they have 06 and about 7% -- >> oh, you went above that. >> we have another senator who is coming on earlier, so that's 7%, make it. >> john, this is a complex issue, obviously. it can be boiled down, really, simply, i think, to either a public plan or a co-op. and you've got democrats pushing the co-op plan, but the members that are further left aren't having any of it. i think the republicans would go for the co-op plan, but that's not going to do it. will they go to reconciliation? >> you think, it's feel to me, though, that i don't think -- i think he wants to get at least a small number of republicans. but there's a reason bachus and gasly haven't com

you know, a lot of people talk about max bachus. max bachus pays attention to what people say in montana. he does. there's been single payors in his state. and this republican force is going to die. when grassley said the other day he pretty much admitted this was a farce, chairman baucus knows he has to get a bill out of this committee and if he only has democrats to work with, guess what the majority democrats on his committee favor a political option. if he's going to get a bill out of this committee with zero republican boats it's going to have to have a public option in the senate finance bill; otherwise, there isn't going to be a bill, right? and he knows there has to be a bill. so it matters what you say. it's one of the reasons i've been very careful not to criticize individual senators. i don't mind talking about their views because at the end, i think we're going to get almost every democratic senator. almost every one because there's not going to be any republicans. they're not going to be interested in forming the bill a

conjunction with speaker pelosi and chairman waxman and majority leader reid and people like senator b bachus or try to muscle it through. if he chooses to muscle it through, he is committing his party in my opinion to the political wilderness. >> shannon: we will see how it plays out in the mid term elections next year. thank you for your time, sir. >> thank you. >> shannon: a major wildfire is scorching parts of southern california and threatening thousands of homes. we are now waiting to hear from governor arnold schwarzenegger. g insuring your family's "ifs" can be confusing. so metlife removed the guesswork. combining two essential insurances... term life and disability... in one affordable package. start building your safety net with our term life and disability tool at metlife.com >>> governor arnold schwarzenegger out in california now talking live about the wildfires they are watt battling there. >> the county undersheriff and i want to thank them for taking me through the briefing and giving me an update on the fire conditions. i also want to thank congressman dryer who is here with

yesterday, talked with senator conrad yesterday, and as we've discussed, talked with sena senat senator bachusfriday. that's our focus is continuing to work this in a bipartisan way. i know the six senators on the finance committee have a conference call slated, according, i think, even to jonathan's report and others, that they have a conference call tonight. >> we'll continue to follow robert gibbs there at the white house briefing, in particular when he talks more about health care. but later this hour, the president intends to meet with the base that got him elected, now called organizing for america, will be holding a live event. we'll have live coverage of that. it should happen about 2:45 eastern time. meantime, check out the health care in america website on cnn.com. find the fact-checks, i-reports and health care news on demand. just go to cnn.com/healthcare. >>> this is the only man convicted in the 1988 lockerbie bombing, responsible for killing 270 people, many of them americans headed home for christmas. well, now he's a free man. >> that was a plane full of young kids, a family w

you know, a lot of people talk about max bachus. max bachus pays attention to what people say in montana. he does. there's been single payors in his state. and this republican force is going to die. when grassley said the other day he pretty much admitted this was a farce, chairman baucus knows he has to get a bill out of this committee and if he only has democrats to work with, guess what the majority democrats on his committee favor a political option. if he's going to get a bill out of this committee with zero republican boats it's going to have to have a public option in the senate finance bill; otherwise, there isn't going to be a bill, right? and he knows there has to be a bill. so it matters what you say. it's one of the reasons i've been very careful not to criticize individual senators. i don't mind talking about their views because at the end, i think we're going to get almost every democratic senator. almost every one because there's not going to be any republicans. they're not going to be interested in forming the bill a

bachus. >> thank you, chaman. chairman, i don't think there's anything that is in such sharp contrast as the administration's proposalor the feds roll and this a of the republicans i the house. we particularly object to what we see is allowing the fed to become a permanent bailout agency. and we believe that that is most troubling. that's allowed, they will sacrifice their independence. and there's absolutely impossible to make them an independent agency. and allow them to function as they are and yet give them the opportunity to guarantee billions of dollars without substantially increasing their accountability and transpabency. but i do thank you for holding this hearing. ether regulatory power and sweeping new powers really should be centralized and given to the federal reserve at a time when our country isaising unprecedented fisca enomic, and monetary policy challenges, we believe is very problematic. we have some fmost experts governor collin and our second panel. we look fward to your testimony. during the

brian: bret, were you upset that your senator was at the table with democrats like max bachus with the the table during this process and didn't walk away like senator hatch? >> no. that's not the issue that i have. i understand that you have to be in the room to know what's going on. what my problem is is that he said he would not vote for a bill or sign a bill the way it is presented right now. buff is he working to polish a bill that can how far do i want to say, this that can get passed. he can add his republican touches to. the republican point of view. as a republican. we don't want any kind of a socialist bill passed. whatsoever. i don't care what kind of a bill they are putting forward. if it's leading this nation to socialism. we don't want it we do not want socialized health care. we do not want it. steve: what do you make of. they did this with people. the mainstream media did this with people who went to the tea parties a while back. a number of mainstream media outlets are portraying people who show up at these town halls like you did a couple days ago in winter set, iowa,

i think senator bachus believes that he's making progress with senator grassley. we hope that senator grassley feels like we are making progress, and hopefully we get something that he thinks is good for health care reform. >> do you take his comment seriously that he's not going to vote for the bill unless he can get a huge number of republicans? >> that is a big question for the huge number of republicans he's going to talk to. >> you were sequestered are named joe asked the president if he was getting a little weak need. >> yes. was that you? >> no, it wasn't me. [laughter] >> it was helen. >> i don't know joe. so is he going into this netroots on line questioning session today expecting to get flak from his base? >> welcome i do know, my sense is that when we talk to our supporters, when we talk to the town hall meetings there are people that have questions and concerns. there are people that have that support costs. the president looks forward to dealing with whatever questions are all there. i think that today was a good example. you heard i forget the name

. >> it is senator bachus expecting to take the lead under the cap and trade bill? >> we're working on that now. >> senate republicans today called on congress to start from scratch on health care legislation. this is just under 10 minutes. >> good afternoon, everyone. obviously all this will be in a very important month for all of us to go home and have an opportunity to discuss the way forward on health care. i think there is a bipartisan agreement that we need to improve the american health-care system, the very broad -- but very broad differences in opinion on how to go about that. all indications at this point is that the american people would like for us to slow down and try to get this right because of the magnitude of it. i think they are not interested in another rush in spend like we saw on the stimulus package. aldus will be a good opportunity for all of us on how to deal with this issue and go home and interact with our constituents and come back here in september with a stronger understanding of exactly where the american people might be on this most im