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me now former executive director of the new york state democratic party and democratic strategist bacillie sykes back with me. how did you read what jill biden said? was she giving us if you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with? >> exactly right. if you dig into the poll she is saying a lot of that which is that voters generally older are supporting joe biden because they think he is the best person to beat donald trump. this is not an ideological debate which a lot of younger voters want with the other candidates. this is about beating donald trump. she is saying, look. we can have this ideological debate at another time but if we are singularly focused on getting this man out of office my husband is the man to do it. it is a great comment. i'd like to see who was in the room. if those voters skew older she is speaking to a very receptive audience. she is doing exactly what she should be doing, on the road supporting joe biden in a very forceful way. she is not wrong. >> but, charlie, if it is that receptive, older audience, they're already buying what she is sellin