baeza progressive side. in some cases it's almost pretrade-- [inaudible] >> we have things we known for, physician-assisted suicide, legalization of marijuana, a variety-- 15-dollar minimum wage, things like that and that exists and we have a very liberal important and also a very conservative start-- side of the state. small pounds where they believe in sort of traditional values and oregon is not just the progressive state in which you may see on television, but actually two different states. >> you are watching the tv, television for serious readers. you can watch any program you see here online at boot-- book twiki.org

baeza progressive side. in some cases it's almost pretrade-- [inaudible] >> we have things we known for, physician-assisted suicide, legalization of marijuana, a variety-- 15-dollar minimum wage, things like that and that exists and we have a very liberal important and also a very conservative start-- side of the state. small pounds where they believe in sort of traditional values and oregon is not just the progressive state in which you may see on television, but actually two different states. >> you are watching the tv, television for serious readers. you can watch any program you see here online at boot-- book twiki.org. >> you are watching the tv on c-span2, television for serious readers and one of the things we like to do is talk about books coming out a little bit later this year and join us now is msnbc lawrence o'donnell. 's new book, comes out in november and is called "playing with fire". mr. o'donnell, why'd you have the word transformation the subtitle? >> guest: so many things were transformed,