and oleksandr alefrov. welcome to the studio, good health, well, actually, how did it happen, that bagatyrsstolen, let's start with you , well, first of all, it's not exactly true, if we talk about theft, it's not that they took, stole and carried away, under mice and carried away, it's an attempt to use the legends of the ukrainian epic, the ancient epic in in the interests of the neighbors , so to speak, actually not... it is not such an exception that the heroes of the epic stories of the national epic are, according to the plot, residents of other countries, for example, the most, the most famous english epic is beowulf, in general everything takes place there in denmark and sweden , but this does not prevent this epic from being english, but with on the other hand, the english do not claim denmark or sweden on the basis of this epic, so it is about using a close one. it is, so to speak, a political epic to justify the claims of completely political moscow princes to kyiv heritage, because this is the idea fixed by moscow princes, starting at least with vasyl the dark and ivan ii, who w