>> he has stop and frisk bagga baggage, baggage as the mayor, he had a few botched commercials at least am virginia. you see him with barack obama all the time. he's trying to establish he's cooperating with him. and, so, i think he's trying to, i think he's going to have a unique advtage, completely tested with those 15 or 16 states on super tuesday, he's going to be able to spend a lot on each one of them. >> woodruff: and he suggests, mark, that he's in his -- whenever you see him making a tspeech, every time he's there, he's prepared to go toe to toe with president trump. >> yes. in a strange way, i think that'd one to have the fewer mistakes he's made. vs. trump ra.not want a trump they don't want an insult race. i think one of the greater appeals of pete buttigieg in this entire campaign is he lowers the emotional thermostat in the room, that he speaks reasonably. coming back to michael bloomberg, judy, you're absolutely right, i've never seen anybody spin like this before, but his campaign has been totally controlled. he's never mixed it up. now he might not even go to the debate