the problem here is liz cheney's biggest task i'm not a carpet bagger in search of an office. i'm of wyoming, for wyoming, i can represent you better than mike enz issuing. all we've seen so far are her and her sister and her sister's partner going back and forth on facebook. not helpful in that regard. dick cheney disputing whether or not he and mike enzi are fishing buddies. none of that matters at all to republican primary voters in the state of wyoming and that's bad for liz cheney. >> mary cheney responded on facebook to sister saying, liz, this isn't an issue on which we disagree, which is the language liz used with chris wallace. you were just wrong and on the wrong side of history. karen, there's no question that liz cheney needs to persuade wyoming voters she's of wyoming. frankly having spent some time in wyoming and having watched this over the years, i don't think there's any doubt the cheneys are connected to wyoming. the parents have always had a house there. she's fourth generation on one side, third generation on the other. she worked in government and lived in

many saw him as a carpet bagger. he has never helds office before. he's a creature of northern virginia and he hasn't done anything, say the critics. he is in a very polarized state himself. >> it's going to be a tough road for him because he still goes up against the republican dominated legislature. he won by presenting himself as the bipartisan moderate guy which is not really what he is. no one in the history of terry mcauliffe has ever accused him of bipartisanship. >> what are the issues he wants to attack? >> he wants to find money to expand education, and take care some of the major traffic issues in the washington area and roads, and he wants to do something about job creation. but he's up against that. >> the take away from this is that the democratic party can put up, maybe not almost anybody but certainly somebody like terry mcauliffe who even to a lot of democrats is anodous guy, comes out of the money politics of washington that they can win with candidates like that and republicans put up extreme tea party people who are unelectable ev

charlie has climbed them all, which makes him a munro bagger, and i hope to bag my first one today.w old were you when you bagged your first munro? >> i think i was 10 the time. at that time, i didn't know what munro was. i mean, i just thought it was a great hill, and i enjoyed that, and i've always loved scotland and the countryside and so -- >> and, so, how long did it take you to do all 284? >> well, my first time 'round, it was three and a half years. >> so, how long did it take you a second time? >> well, 14 and a half days. >> what? that's amazing. how many a day is that? >> averaging six a day, two or three, shall we start -- >> this is our, this is it. it's a little wet out here, don't you think? >> hey, come on, this is scotland. what do you expect? >> oh, duh. ♪ what's the name of this munro? >> this one we're climbing today is beinn tulaichean, the biggest hill in this sort of campbell area, here. >> so, this is the campbell area? >> yeah. >> which is your last name. >> yeah. >> this is like a homecoming. this is your turf. ♪ we've hiked all day. i know, i thought it was

let's hit a bank with lots of money any money of a carpet bagger, and jesse liked the idea of riding that belongs to this carpet bagger who fought for the north in the civil war. the date for the robbery, september 7, 1876. the gang rides into towns in twos and threes, from different directions. about 10:00 in the morning. some of the gang members actually go into the first national bank, it's right on division street. and this was a very common procedure when they robbed a bank. they would go in and ask to have a bill changed. can you change this $10 bill. this gives them an opportunity to see where the cash draws, where the safe is, how many employees are working. so they go into the bank and then these individuals leave. some go and have a meal at a local restaurant. some of the gang were seen in the saloons in town having a few drinks. and then later, about 2:00, the men start converging on the federal national bank. three men were 0 toe go into the bank and conduct the robbery two on the street, and three would hang back in mill square to protect their escape route. the three me

turned out there is a significant measure of skepticism on the people whom the lefties refer to as the baggers who are tea party people they don't like these kind of nontransparent business friendly they're not too happy with the whole idea of forcing wages down free movement of labor free movement of capital and if there is resistance on the republican side if there's an effort to make the treaty better it come from the tea party guys not from the business guys who are the democrats how do you see the advance of technology in the way the technology is proliferated in the world the world and how easily people can access intellectual property doesn't that just make current copyright laws and ip laws moved i mean are we entering a period where these laws are just like ok you could do it but think of it this way apple software is worth a lot to workers in california try to america without copyright laws the chinese just rip it off so really there's nothing simple about this and there's ever and will be lots of painful compromises hopefully we can get a decent diversity of opinion to try and nudge

some are saying you're a car pet bagger. >> i think that shows i'm a fourth generation wyomingite. and that was my daughter on the horse at the end. on my mom's side i'm fourth generation, third generation on my dad's side. i would say the time that i spent outside of wyoming, working inside federal agencies in washington dc is experience that is very important for what i think has to be the top priority of a wyoming senator. we have to cut agencies, their size, funding, and get the federal government under control. the abuse going on in wyoming by agencies by the epa, the war on coal -- this president's policies involve unstainable government. having worked in federal agencies i know how to cut them and roll them back. >> you also say in that ad it's time for a new generation, but let's look at mike's record. he has a 93% lifetime rating from the american conservative union. 100% from the national right to life committee and an aplus from the nra. is there something wrong with that record? or are you just saying that at age 69 he is too old? >> it's not about age. he has been here

. >> t baggers don't want to pay for education because their children are grown. the roads or the games or the rivers. john: yes i do. i just don't want it wasted but dennis cozenage says government workers can do it just as efficientl? come on. >> when you talk about privatization it inevitably means people pay more taxes taxes, fees will go up, they have lessccountabiliiy. john: it doesn't mean that we just heard where taxe our lower because they delivered the water cheaply or sold the water -- the liquor. >> not going to happen. to people like control over the public service facilities? if you don't own them then they will own you. in america has assets belong to people are now bought by foreign investors. we have of dhabi invested in the parking meter privatization in the toll booth in indiana. 3.$8 billion privatisation inevitably investors from other countries will make $21 billion. john: the cars move more quicy the states save money they did not act give it away davies did. they will get back. in chicago that was a bad deal. but that is a go thing because

. >> t baggers don't want to pay for education because their children are grown. the roads or the games or the rivers. john: yes i do. i just don't want it wasted but dennis cozenage says government workers can do it just as efficiently? come on. >> when you talk about privatization it inevitably means people pay more taxes taxes, fees will go up, they have less accountabiliiy. john: it doesn't mean that we just heard where taxes our lower because they delivered the water cheaply or sold the water -- the liquor. >> not going to happen. to people like control over the public service facilities? if you don't own them then they will own you. in america has assets belong to people are now bought by foreign investors. we have of dhabi invested in the parking meter privatization in the toll booth in indiana. 3.$8 billion privatisation inevitably investors from other countries will make $21 billion. john: the cars move more quickly the states save money they did not act give it away davies did. they will get it back. in chicago that was a bad deal. but that is a good thi

they don't like her because they think she's a carpet bagger, frankly.hey think she should run in virginia where she's lived most of the time. so that's the first strike. they like mike enzi. she's down something like 50-something points in the last poll. so she's way behind as it is. and i don't see how this helps her. you're right. it is a character issue. it's not a political issue at this point. >> next time we'll talk about carpet bagging. we're more comfortable there. let me tell you, she keeps saying my roots are in wyoming. but her feet have been in virginia. thank you for this. i think it's a bit of fun because it's ridiculous. thank you. great to have you back. >>> up next, the toronto mayor rob ford takes his don't blame me i was drunk out of my mind excuse. that's what you do these days. if you were gay you'd say i was drunk that night. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> back to "hardball." time for the sideshow. i thought we just had one. anyway, republicans hoping to dramatize the rocky health care rollout have taken to compari

you have old tee baggers who don't want to pay for the things the roads and the dams and the rivers. >> yes i do. i just don't want the money wasted. >> former congressman kucinich says the government workers can do the work just as efficiently? >> when you talk about privatization you end up paying more taxes and fees go up you heard examples that the taxes were lower because they delivered the water more cheaply. >> not going to happen. listen. the question is this. if people want control over these public services in time they will own you. what we have in america is assets that be long to people and municipalities across the country now being brought up by foreign investors. we have for example ab dab bee invested in the parking meter privatization in chicago. you have the tollbooths in it illino indiana $3.4 million investment. investors are planning on making $21 million. they didn't give it away they leased it so they will get it right. the parking meter was a bad thing so they canceled it. the private company when it doesn't cowork out they can fir the company. >> in indiana

some people in wyoming are saying you're a carpet bagger. >> i think, first of all, what that ad shows is i'm a fourth generation wyomingite and a plug to my daughter at the end of the ad. look, i mean, on my mom's side i'm fourth generation. on dad's side third generation wyomingite. those making the charge don't want to talk about senator enzi's lack of results. i would say also the time that i spend outside wyoming, the time i spent working inside federal agencies in washington, d.c., is experience that's very important for what i think has got to be the top priority of wyoming senator which is rolling back massive expansion of our federal governmenting cutting agencies and their size getting the federal government under control. the abuse going on by agencies like epa, war on coal, this president's policies across the board involve a massive unsustainable expansion of the federal government. having worked inside federal agencies, i know how to cut them. i know what it will take to roll it back. >> you say in that ad it's time for a new generation. let's look at mike enzi's record.

they don't like her because they think she's a carpet bagger, frankly.hey think she should run in virginia where she's lived most of the time. so that's the first strike. they like mike enzi. she's down something like 50-something points in the last poll. so she's way behind as it is. and i don't see how this helps her. you're right. it is a character issue. it's not a political issue at this point. >> next time we'll talk about carpet bagging. we're more comfortable there. let me tell you, she keeps saying my roots are in wyoming. but her feet have been in virginia. thank you for this. i think it's a bit of fun because it's ridiculous. thank you. great to have you back. >>> up next, the toronto mayor rob ford takes his don't blame me i was drunk out of my mind excuse. that's what you do these days. if you were gay you'd say i was drunk that night. this is "hardball," the place for politics. as your life changes, fidelity is there for your personal economy, helping you readjust along the way, refocus as careers change and kids head off to college, and re

i was a grocery bagger and ca cashier in high school and college. >> let's see if we can -- >> i'm going to beat you. i am quick. bust the bag, make the bottom sturdy and build up. >>> traffic moving slowly at the bay bridge approach. there's heavier traffic across the bay. rain in the forecast. rob mayeda with a look at the climate and why the storm is unique. >>> i'm dave feldman. we'll hear from the newest member of the giants starting rotation, tim hudson coming up next. >>> plus steph curry was hit in the head last night against the jazz and his playing status is officially up in the air. we'll have an update on his health next from the xfinity sports desk. >>> well, we're known for our legendary wine region. what about a small batch liquor? a new law is opening the door for a different kind of tasting room. here's nbc bay area's joe rosato jr. >> reporter: all across the bay area is wine country, droves of visitors plunk down small fees to taste wines just a stone's throw from where they were made. but under california law, distillers making everything from bourbon, to vodka, were

but it grows out of political opportunism, and what it does is it reinforces that she is a carpet baggerrepresented in the house, but she has lived in virginia until five minutes ago. she moves into the state, in a very arrogant way, very entitled way. and then she trims her positions in order to try to win a primary. it's so transparent. she is already down by more than 50 points against mike enzi. after this, probably closer to 60 points. these kinds of candidates don't win. now is it possible for her to come back to win the primary, no. things change in politics. >> of course they do. >> but right now, in an extraordinarily self-destructive way, she has both hurt her position in her family and hurt herself politically, so any reputation she had for being smart is really in jeopardy right now. >> margie, part of liz cheney's campaign against the older mike enzi is that she is running to be a new generation of leader. out with the old, in with the new. but when even your conservative father supports same-sex marriage, is there anything really fresh on you about her stance? >> no. this i

." >> he's a carpet bagger.t's not the type of person we want in the governorship. >> mostly association to obama. >> still want to bring benghazi to the forefront. >> i'm out here supporting my brother. and as a physician, a lot of the medical stuff surrounding obama care is of primary importance to me. >> yes, you heard that right. that last character was ken cuccinelli's brother, dr. kevin cuccinelli, a family practice physician from colorado. the issue is very clear in this race. mcauliffe supporters are concerned about women's rights, voting rights and obama care. cuccinelli's crowd is a bunch of typical tea party crazies. joining me now for real talk panel, pulitzer prize winning national columnist, connie schultz, and also bill burton, former deputy white house press secretary and founder of co usa. connie, women's issues very big in this race. have women's issues in a gubernatorial race been so defined as they are here in virginia? >> as you know, you have been talking about virginia for quite some time.

react to the proper baggage thing though that she's moving in and i will is accused of being a carpet bagger larry when after i'd spent ten years in washington working for jerry ford and so forth i went back home to wyoming and of course they said carpetbagger was true. he's got ancestors that they go back to two great grand great great grandmothers and walked a mormon trail in eight hundred fifty two to wyoming her great grandfather settled in wyoming in one thousand nine hundred seventy cali and then raised a family of five and a tent in the midwest oil fields one of whom was her grandmother and she became the first woman deputy sheriff in it's own a county i mean we've got good roots in the state and so the car that goes over the polls at this point we've been focused more on images and perception and issues and we don't really we haven't taken had it yet partly because it's not very useful at this stage so i would assume at this point the incumbents had but one hundred year history of wyoming we've only had one senator serve more than three terms and that was back in the fifty's everybod

it's a four-bagger on deere, and you lose 50% on your money., my prediction is, the next five to ten years, you make nothing and probably lose a lot. >> this is an incredibly interesting chart, because, andrew, a lot of people reporting last night, cisco, at a time when people are valuing businesses on revenues, and you heard martin franklin say it, buying on free cash flow yield, what's the performance, the cisco versus deere, past 13 years. >> four bagger, cisco you lost 15%, and they quadrupled. >> you have 53 there. >> it was above 100 -- >> is this tech at large? do you believe this of tech across the board, or social stuff? >> no, no, no. we look at -- we differentiate freak -- we're talking social media. you talk about free cash flow. cisco is getting down now to a point whereas probably getting real interesting. now they're overreacting to the latest quarter. everybody in it now. 80% of the trades is electronic. nobody cares about free cash flow. i'm extinct. >> tesla? >> oh, my god. that's another -- but at least they have a business m

my opinion of what is going to happen to the rule the look and -- the republican party is that tea baggers will have their day. they won't carry the majority of the nation. pullwill not be able to the nation back into the past or even freeze it where it is. they are going to be very strong for a while. >> do you think that rick perry is one of their stronger potential candidates for 2016? is -- i don't want to say not real smart -- he is either not real smart or not well read. when he was in the debates last time, common questions that were asked of him, he didn't -- ask him to state some of the that he might want to enhance and he couldn't remember the names of any of them. >> that is larry from florida. a tweet from kathy of the des moines register, governor perry calls on the federal government to we have a caller earlier mention president obama. here is the headline in the hill. obama apologizes for saying people could keep their health plans. they reporting on an nbc interview today. obama apologized to americans losing their health care despite his promise that individuals who like t

he's using it to address ritter's claim you make fun of tea baggers.entic word from the president. he is trying to sell it online. the letter is words on a paper. ritter told the new york post, it doesn't mean anything to me, obowl doesn't mean any of it. and i really got to disagree with him there. to me, this is a very healthy thing when a former president sends a night like this it's broof they aren't as insulated as we fear they are. criticism does get threw to them. they hear it. they feel it. they carry it around with them. they're human, sometimes they just can't help letting someone know that. by the way, you may feel leak you are having de ja vu right now. if you saw me guest host rachel madow, you heard me then. we felt we had to tell it again. i was the editor back within i had that exchange with bill clinton, he passed away last night t. name was peter cap lan, he was a legend in the new york media world. the observer was an incubator of writers happy to learn from and work with a truly one of a kind character. if you have a minute today, i

i ultimately think if she wins or loses, it won't be because of she's a carpet bagger. is smart. i don't know how 1450she'll -- >> clinton, the democratic establishment of new york wanted clinton to run for that seat. here she is running against the establishment. >> remember new york has a huge democrat registration. once hillary clinton became the nominee, it was almost certain she'd be a u.s. senator. this is trying to top ple a very popular republican. >> she always thought that enzi wasn't running again.ple a very popular republican. >> she always thought that enzi wasn't running again. she tried to force the issue and the more she did, he said, no, i'm not done. but i think that now she's caught herself in a primary. she never thought she would have a primary. >> up next, what really happened that day in dallas? te time magazine is out with the 50th anniversary issue on the kennedy assassination featuring never before seen pictures. we'll reveal the cover next. yourturn night into day.ng. conquer the globe. stop floods. now she could use a hand, so she can keep li