we knew they were going to evacuate bagram, but from my understanding, bagram would be the last placet one ofhe first places... >> smith: so you never received a phone call saying, "we're gonna leave bagram today"? >> no, no. >> at its peak, 100,000 u.s. troops were stationed there. bagram was the epicenter of the u.s. and nato's war against the taliban and al-qaeda. >> smith: over four presidencies, america and its allies had occupied over 700 bases. all of them, one by one, were packed up and closed down. >> a formidable fortress for o decades, where hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent, now looks like a junkyard. >> u.s. forces say they have destroyed nearly 15,000 pieces of equipment to avoid hardware falling to the taliban. >> the americans pulled out all the support elements, all the contractors. we were low on ammunition. we didn't have the laser-guided bombs and missiles, and what does it mean? of course, it meant that the taliban are coming to take over. (car horn honking) >> smith: no one in the biden administration agreed to an interview about the final days befo

so we're going to pull bagram off that the planners to reset entire plan. three months of planning lost terrible decision. but what's worse is the indecisive this which not one congress member asked about in the congressional testimony not. one interviewer since mackenzie has got into the news on msnbc or morning joe. ask the question hey in the military investigate united states you didn't decide to pull bagram the third week of june. why were you so indecisive? that would be a great question ask so we make that decision we leave bagram on one july. we leave 7000 prisoners in the prison. just leave them in. the taliban walks in on ten august and opposes release as the 7000 prisoners, which the way is a much larger force than. we ended up responding in complete force with ten august. now general mackenzie realizes thing is going bad. he throws two marine battalions in the 82nd airborne 5000 troops. so we from 2500 to 650 up to 5000 on 15 august. that's the pictures where you see all the civilians holding on to the airplanes. the taliban surrounded the airfi

they shutdown bagram which was key. they got 13 americans killed. they destroyed the credibility of the united states all over the world. this is embarrassing and somebody needs to be held accountable. liz: the families of the 13 troops killed are upset over this whitewashed report. blaming president trump when biden set his over exit plan? >> i remember asking. at the time he told me that was a decision brought to him by his military advisers. if you look at this document, john kirby said it was not a document meant to focus on accountability. but instead it blames the previous administration and the afghan allies. at best it says there were intelligence failures. i think there will be outrage even thought it was dropped right before the holiday weekend. liz: they drop this right before the easter weekend. when biden pulled the trigger on leaving before 9/11. they have white house reporters accusing them of doing this news dump. we have pentagon and state department doing their own classified briefing and reports to congress. they are trying to pre

aalem says that after his brother was killed, their houswas then set on fire and he was taken to bagramer brother. he spent four years there and, he says, he was never charged with any crime. but the experience turned him against the americans. >> (speaking pashto): >> (speaking dari): >> smith: throughout his presidency, hamid karzai spoke out publicly against civilian deaths from raids and other errant attacks. >> we're going to ask the international community to e nighttime raids on afghan homes and eliminate civilian casualties. >> president karzai increasingly became bitter. the raiding of houses and night raids, he was strictly opposed to it. but the thing that particularly annoyed president karzai was, was the killing of civilians. um, and it repeatedly happened. >> in ghazni province, central afghanistan, the dead include a woman and a child following what eyewitnesses say was a raid by u.s. forces. >> certainly, the province of kunar has had more than its fair share of civilian casualties. >> digging small graves for nine children, all under 14. general david petraeus has since

. >> then you had all of the equipment, of course, that was just left behind, as bagram, for example,as abandoned. >> look, john kirby is right, the troops did a amazing job, but had to take back that airport because we gave it up, pulled out our troops, too many troops, too soon. yes, we got out a lot of afghans, but we left a lot of afghan allies behind. veterans like myself are still working every day to try to get them to freedom before they're massacred by the taliban. yes, the troops did great work, and a lot of people were saved. and it was a difficult environment. let's look at why we got to that place in the first place. it was in large part because we simply didn't start this evacuation soon enough. >> talk to me about some of those special immigrant visa holders that cannot get to the united states, and the state department backlog that still exists today. some statistics, i've seen, it could take 18 years to get through that. so that means we didn't keep our promise to those afghans that helped us. >> i mean, look, veterans feel passionately about this, because we put our

okay, maybe not enough to control the country but certainly bagram air force.rovide cover for the taliban to fight. if you leave the country and don't support the afghan army at all at least with air cover, of course they were going to run. it was them or their families. they decided either to run or flip sides. so we got 2500 troops there. does he bring up the 7,000 nato members who weren't even informed of joe biden's so-called plan to leave? and, guys, when is the last time joe biden held on to any donald trump plan? did he hold on to donald trump's plan at the border? did he hold on to his xl pipeline plan and his energy programs? he sat there with a stack of executive orders and reversed everything he could. but this is the plan he couldn't touch. >> ainsley: brian, in the 12 pages, it says the outgoing administration provided no plans for how to leave and how to conduct this final withdrawal. the former president didn't leave me any plans is what he is saying. >> brian: i don't know what to do. he could have called him. i surprised he didn't. left a littl

we took 2500 troop level which pentagon said was minimum to hold bagram and kabul and went down do 650e left bagram, scumbag prisoners escaped and one was suicide bomber that killed 13 american servicemembers. left $80 billion of equipment. somebody has to be held to account. to date, david, nobody has. david: we'll see if details come out, i'm sure they will, the question how long it will take. congressman fallon, thank you for being here, appreciate it. >> thanks, david. david: tech stocks getting a boost today after microsoft reported better-than-expected earnings but how will a.i. impact big tech going forward? we'll be digging into that coming next. ♪. at adp, we understand business today looks nothing like it did yesterday. while it's more unpredictable, its possibilities are endless. from paying your people from anywhere to supporting your talent everywhere, we use data driven insights to design hr solutions and services to help businesses of all size work smarter today. so, they can have more success tomorrow. ♪ one thing leads to another ♪ i can't, you know, thank my parents e

and, by the way, they also gave up bagram air base when we said we should actually keep it. >> yeah.as, in fact, not the president on february -- at the time of the afghanistan surrender, so i don't know what they're talking about. and, of course, trump did not box them in into banding -- abandoning bagram which was a massive mistake. the blaming of trump, the passing of the buck to the previous administration, we've seen it time and time again. and here is why i think this is very important, sean. it's not just a matter of blame game, it's a matter of learning the right lessons from the failure of deterrence in ukraine so that we don't repeat those same mistakes in asia, across the taiwan strait. we need to understand why deterrence pails so that deterrence can hold in taiwan so we don't find ourselves fighting a kinetic war with the chinese communist party which is far more powerful than russia right now. russia is xi jinping's junior partner in a new cold war they've launched against the west, so if we refuse to learn these lessons, we're doomed to the repeat them in a far more di

before we shut down bagram air force base i know for it fact because i discussed it with scotty millerelf scotty miller on scene four star commander asked the administration weeks before bagram was shut down, do you still want to close this? it took a while to get an answer but they said shut it down. so that was an operational decision that i think was misguided. that would have been a much better airfield to do and president biden, while he extended the withdrawal a few months could have set conditions and could have extended the withdrawal much more significantly so that plans could be made to make an orderly exit as opposed to what took place. remember, this bret. the taliban came into town and offered the united states military the opportunity to be responsible for kabul and we'll stay outside of it. now, there is no way with the amount of troops that we had that we could secure the entire city, but we could have said well, we are going to exit from this airport and we're going to provide outer security not just security at the wall. so we didn't have the kind of tactical security

billions billions of weapons and how about bagram air force base.f the ccp is moving to bagram air force base at some point. president biden ignoring his own questions. ignored some questions yesterday about the oversight committee finding that nine of his family members have actually received money from foreign business dealings paid we talk abut the influence peddling all the time, watch a happened yesterday. >> president biden is it true that nine members of your family got billions. >> president biden nine members of her family got billions. >> on grossman are we ever going to see accountability for what we see on this laptop for the bank records of the biden family accepted millions of dollars from communist china. >> what you're going to continue to see the house oversight republicans exposing president biden and his family for the influence peddling while he was vice president. it was three family members now we know it is nine and the committee has reviewed treasury records we know this to be true in the president will not be able to avoid q

abandoning bagram, our most strategic and fortified foothold in afghanistan before the evacuation was complete led to thousands of americans stranded behind enemy lines. the premature abandonment left the taliban armed with a vast arsenal of american military quitman, 23,000 armored vehicles and 165 helicopters or fixed wing aircraft in addition to 550,000 firearms which were promptly turned up on the people of afghanistan and the last of our remaining troops. it doesn't take state department credentials or greenhorn of affairs to determine the terms negotiate with the terrorist state the chance death to america shouldn't be taken at face value. president biden's decision to entrust our enemies to secure our perimeter around kabul airport as the city descended into chaos and violence resulted in the death of 13 brave united states service members weeks before the debacle unfolded president biden made the ill-fated prediction that, quote, there is going to be no circumstance for you to see people lifted off the roof of an embassy of the united states from afghanistan. just 36 days late

he served at the us military base in bagram and helped identify targets for airstrikes in afghanistan in february 2014 hill handed over 17 secret documents with evidence of us war crimes to journalists, he said he felt guilty for the involvement of civilians, the court sentenced the ex- special service officer to 45 months in prison. hill is still behind bars. russian electronic warfare units are working with the help of special equipment to intercept enemy communications. alexey will tell you how it helps to calculate the coordinates of the enemy baranov, a few kilometers to the line of contact, electronic warfare vehicles drive up to the point to complete the combat mission in less than 5 minutes. without this drone , the work cannot be done. this is how the final assembly of the device is performed. the drone was assembled the last movement of one of the operators, and this is how the coordinates of the negotiating opponents of the enemy are determined ; predetermined sms point is exactly how foreign mercenaries are calculated by registering a sim card after what? the equipment is

abandoned the bagram air force base, left all those weapons there? how much money and weapons did we leave to the taliban? >> maria, we left behind billions of collars of military hardware -- can dollars of military hardware, and who knows where that is today and where it might end up being used against the united states. that botched withdrawal sent a signal to countries around the world, to leaders like vladimir putin and xi jinping that america lacked the resolve to stick with a situation that needed to, needed to be handled in the proper way to demonstrate that we are able to combat these forces of evil around the world. and that emboldened putin and xi jinping. i think that that's the takeaway from this. to me, it's very, very sad that that's where we end up. ask we're still living with those ramifications today. maria: all right. we will leave it there. congressman, thanks very much. congressman rob whitman on this easter weekend. thank you, sir. >> thanks, maria. maria: we're going to take a break. we've got a mixed jobs report to report on. t

i was going to keep bagram. i was getting out, but not for afghanistan. it'sit's one hour away from whee china makes its nuclear weapons . it's one o of the biggestf airforce bases in the world. i think the biggesforce bat wite runways that go ten thousandth feet.at i was keeping that go because s china, not because ofta afghanistan. >> and theand they left everyth. >> they they leftht in the dark of night. they lefft thet lights on . they left the dogs, by the way, you know, the people left that . they left the doors. everyone, you know, the dog lovers. and you got a lot of them. i love dogs.le you love dogs. the but they left the dogs.what people said what? one of the first questions i got, what did they dorman with the dogs? >> mostly german shepherds. they left them. what they did, the way they got out was soth horrible.ot therybody knows that was their plan that had nothinatg to do with me. tten getting out out, too. we would have gotten out with strength and dignity. and what happened? they got out and the other here. oh yeah, it was trump's fault.

at a strategic level, the air bass at bagram would have been a much better location to facilitate this withdrawal. i think the surrender of the kabul airfield will prove to be a strategic error. but we set conditions on the withdrawal to make it difficult for the people who did want to leave. they basically outsourced the perimeter security airfield to the taliban. so you are asking allies, people who fought with us, who bled alongside us to go through checkpoints manned by the enemy we were fighting. i don't see how that can be reasonable. brian: we know how bad you guise fought. you can't be blamed for how bad the leadership was. speaking of fighting. pay the groict guy. he tells us why he likes trusm and desantis. a democrat wants to throw matt taibbi in jail for being a good journalist. and they want to make you with a good credit score pay for people who don't have good credit scores by ne tony here from creditrepair.com, helping people see the true cost of bad credit. what are you doing to improve your credit? should i be doing something? absolutely, unless you like paying thousa

someone who spend a lot of times in afghanistan, and knowing importance of bagram. at not only the protection to that could have prevented the 13 heroes, and 13 new goldstar families from losing their lives, but proper vetting. which you talked about the thousands that were put on the plane which were prioritized pof americans and p2 and siv's randomly thrown on aircraft. would you feel if we had had bagram air base to do proper manifesting without the chaos that they went on the plane that that could have contributed to potentially making sure we did this more effectively? i'll start with you, miss shaw. >> thanks for that question. so we haven't considered that question squarely, bagram was a dod facility so i would invite mr. storch-- >> understood the reason i asked you, it was something strange when i saw the state department taking operational control over the department of defense when it came to what planes were flying in and out. i was on a november tail number designated humanitarian aircraft to rescue 28 americans with 20 special operators on with crew th

it was president biden who made the decisions, ordered the evacuation of bagram.e reason the united states was humiliated in afghanistan. ashley: is anyone going to be held accountable, based on this report i don't think so other than pointing the finger at donald trump. >> not at all. after 13 serviceman, killed by isis at the harvard karzai international airport, central command reacted rapidly, killed a bunch of people who were innocent including 5 or 7 children, the head of centcom shut them accountable, he wasn't, never was held accountable. this is something the administration wants to move beyond, they think they' re being clever with this document blaming trump, they realize this is a problem in 2024 especially with ukraine turning into a potential stalemate, just a political act. stuart: and the timing just before a holiday weekend, suspicious at the very least. you are always great on all the topics as always, lots to talk about. appreciate it. now this. horrible story, new security footage showing cash apps - it has been released. the video we are about

surrendering taking the military out first, leaving $85 billion worth of equipment, i was going to give up bagram not for afghanistan. it's one hour away from where china makes its nuclear weapons. it's one of the biggest air force bases in the world with runways that go 10,000 feet. i was keeping that because of china not because of afghanistan. >> right. >> and they left having. they left the dark of night. they left lights on them. left the dogs by the way. >> they left the dogs? >> they left the dogs, the dog lovers, i love dogs you love dogs, people said one of the first questions i got what did they had do with the dogs mostly german shepherds? they left them. the way they got out was so horrible. everybody knows that it was their plan. that had knowing nothing to do with me. we would have gotten out with strength and dignity and what happened? they got out and the other day i hear yeah, it was trump's fall. oh that's right. it was trump. trump. i was gone for a long -- i would have been out faster and we would have had tall equipment. we would have the american citizens. we left hostages.

china was pressuring the white house for us to move and bagram is most strategic place on earth, our enemies did not want us there. our partners were successfully working with us to keep terrorism at bay there, keep the taliban in mountains and we and the white house and president biden without consent, including the afghan government and international allies move the united states military out of afghanistan. >> ashley: the ig is calling out the biden administration for not cooperating with investigators, listen. >> the lack of cooperation by state and not talking about the ig's, the department of state and to lesser extent usaid is unprecedented. significant portion of cigar work including the five reports we did for this committee have been hindered and delayed. >> ashley: need a quick response and reaction to that? >> chad: yeah, i mean, the state department was blocking the rescue efforts of the united states american citizens during the withdrawal and ever since then secretary blinken and president biden state department has hindered, hid, covered up everything that happened in

this guy escaped from prison at bagram after we stuck out in th middle mill the nightmare there wouldo kill have this guy not taken the lives of our 13 because he escaped out of. >> i love the photo of your son that we have showed two people here. he was a hynson handsome young man, but behind you today is no his picture, but a very special flag about the freedom 13, the last question here, tells a little bit about that. >> the freedom 13 is our nonprofit that we started we ar planning on building camps all throughout the united states fo veterans to use free of charge for a week at a time. we make these flags because we do a lot of parades with vehicles, boats, and we are selling them like crazy and people are supporting us furthe vehicles as well as their homes for their whole mission is to keep that life and this is a bi piece of it. they are available for purchase. >> with a mild day coming up, a good flag to have at that ready. thank you so much, take care. >> thank you for having me. >> godspeed, sir. ron desantis getting a lot of love from republican lawmakers in his home state

mali khan was captured by u.s. troops and imprisoned at bagram air base in 2011. >> (speaking pashto) >> (speaking pashto): (series of explosions echoing) (aftershock vibration rumbles) >> i was a leader of suicide attack on foreigners. no... >> smith: any attacks on foreigners? >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> smith: samiullah al muhammedi was one of haqqani's operatives. so you made car bombs? >> yeah. car bombs. uh, suicide bomb... (indistinct) >> smith: bomb vests? >> yeah. >> smith: suicide vests? >> yeah. >> smith: muhammedi emphasized the haqqanis' ties to pakistan. but you say the pakistan military was supporting the training... >> yeah. >> smith: ...that you received. >> yes. this, this was their national interest, to train us. >> smith: the national interest was what? >> in that time they wanted to destroy the local government of afghanistan. >> smith: so the pakistanis were training you to go back to afghanistan. >> and to kill americans. in that time, this... that was their national interest. (siren blaring) >> smith: one haqqani's biggest suicide attacks came in downtown kabul in

we know that out of that 80 billion put into bagram, 7 billion of equipment that the taliban now possesses, which is showing up around the globe. we know that the botched debacle there is afghanistan is what has g given fuel to the fire that you have coming from vladimir putin. how he invaded ukraine. it is what is super charges china. you look at their work with iran and north korea, that access of evil. -- axis of evil, what we know is that a lot of this started because the biden administration said wire out by a date certain, even though the generals told the president do not dod this. he did it and way, he wanted to be out september 11, nothing else matters but his timeline. elizabeth: watching president in 2021 saying he still would have left afghanistan even without the trump deal. >> would you have withdrawn troops like this even if trump did not make that deal with taliban. >> i would have tried to figure out how to withdraw the troop, george, there is no good time to leave afghanistan. elizabeth: why is the president now contradicting his own words trying to flblame trump, but he

the fact is we were going to keep over 3,000 para military from the c.i.a., keep bagram air base, andnt in afghanistan of former taliban and potentially al-qaeda as well, and they just opened the gates once they walked out. who was the guy who destroyed abbey gate, the bomber, unclassified report, he said that individual came out of the prison. so that's the one who eventually blew up the bomb that killed 13 americans. >> kirby engaged in revisionist history in describing what we see on the screen appears to be chaos. >> for all this talk of chaos, i didn't see it, not from my perch. at one point during the evacuation there was an aircraft taking off full of people, americans and afghans alike, every 48 minutes. i don't buy the argument of chaos. >> john: as our colleague likes to say, ah, we have the receipts when it comes to this idea of chaos. listen to what john kirby said august 24, 2021. >> what i can -- the crowd size is smaller now than it was in those first few days, and so we are not experiencing to the degree we did last monday the phy physical crush and chaos. >> chaos, ye

bagram air force base. >> you use the word goofy, i would use another word gas lighting this is the highest obviously detached from reality and the reality of seen video of human beings attaching themselves to the exterior of an aircraft in the desperate attempt to get out of the chaos of joe biden caused. this is the biden playbook is that not this is a b&b of valium blame he blames donald trump or something that donald trump did not do and then to delaware for the weekend so no one can challenge him on this. is it is absurd to say donald trump didn't have a mandate to negotiate essentially with the taliban, to basically coordinate what he would hope to be a safe and strategic withdraw from afghanistan as opposed to a chaotic clown show that we saw under this administration. maria: how shameful to talk about all the people that they took out and not remember the 13 servicemen who lost their lives as a result of the botched withdrawal. >> absolutely. this was a complete debacle from start to finish, certainly. i think that is clear. any finger-pointing here is completely inappropriate and q

and we give up bagram airbase. one hour from where china makes its nuclear weapons.er. we were in great shape. if you look back on that history, you will see something that is interesting. i dealt with abdul, the leader of the taliban. i took a lot of heat from the fake news people back there. they are the ones that were fighting hard. i related to jesse james, the great bank robber, they say why do you always rob banks? he said, that's where the money is. when i dealt with abdul, the one who was shooting our young soldiers and others with snipers. i said, you can't do that, over the phone. if you do that you will suffer like nobody has ever suffered, your community will be terrible, your community will be hit. i said, abdul, why do you show me a picture of my home? i said, abdul, you will have to figure that out for yourself. we did not lose one soldier in 18 months. not one soldier was even shot at. [applause] we were going to get out with pride and dignity, take all of our equipment out. i told the generals i want every screw, bold, tank, plane, i want every helic

. >> sir, they were told again and again, do not let go of the bagram air force base. they let it go at a time that was pivotal to what happened. >> of course they were, trace. i want to get to one more thing. kirby used the world "constrain." there were no constraints. we knew the taliban. we knew how evil they were. when they violated the agreement on my watch, we crushed them. general miller, amazing man. he and i worked closely together. we made sure the taliban didn't attack a single american after the date we signed that agreement. they came in and acted like the house was on fire so they could execute what president biden intended 2010, a full scale withdrawal. it's outrageous for them to blame any one but joe biden. >> secretary pompeo, thanks for your time. we appreciate it. >> thank you. have a good day. >> continuing coverage of breaking news now. look at this. >> three democrats expelled. republicans say the lawmakers broke the rules when they rallied on the house floor for tougher gun laws after last month's deadly shooting at a christian school in nashvil

because we maintained our position at bagram air force base. energy at the end with some of the discussions that were going on. i did go to al-assad in iraq in christmas of 2018. he grasped the significance of it, the way we paid for it, what we could do to protect the people there. he would have immediately gone from then acting secretary miller the importance of this. so no, that's just inaccurate as well. again, they're trying to shirk their responsibilities. it is just a disgrace. >> neil: so finally, i'll give you the final pitch, which is too say no one could have seen something like this deteriorating as quickly as it did. what do you think? >> well, neil, i mean, this is all coming from admiral kirby. you and i are old enough to remember baghdad at the outside of iraq. we have kabul kirby now. he's saying whatever he can to make things look like they're okay. it's not okay. you know, there were things that we could have done. we could have been much harsher with the taliban and could have maintained our defensive positions and gotten al

we know that they have also gained control in afghanistan, the bagram air force base we're expecting, in terms of the chinese nationals coming in through the border, i want to get your take on that because i understand they pay between 35 and $50,000 a head. why would china send people or is it not the communist party directing people in? is this just regular folks in china trying to escape the ccp? why are appresc apprehensions oe nationals up 900% year over year. >> it's a little of both. sometimes you'll see these chinese nationals that are coming if all they want to do is flee communist china. then you have you to look at the got aways, the number of people who are able to evade apprehension that are coming fchina. this dynamic is very scary what exists on the border today because we don't know what the ramifications are going to be until years down the road. we learned had that back on 9/11. we have to take a look at this and we can get the bore doctor under control tomorrow -- border under control tomorrow but we have to have political will to do it and if we have the political

military to abandon bagram air base in the dead of night in early july 2021.ban took over a month later, they freed a known isis prisoner who carried out the deadly suicide bombing, killing 13 u.s. service members and 170 afghan civilians. a u.s. drone strike days later killed 10 afghans including seven children mistaking them for terrorists. >> president biden had promised the evacuation would not look like the fall of saigon. >> there is going to be no circumstance for you see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy of the united states from afghanistan. it is not at all comparable. >> a former marine corps sniper told congress it was even worse. >> the withdrawal was a catastrophe in my opinion. and there was inexcusable lang of accountability and negligence. >> mississippi center roger wicker, the top republican on the armed services committee called the withdrawal a, quote: historic blunder and added in a functional administration there would be many individuals held accountable for this failure. mike? >> mike: lucas tomlinson on the north lawn. tha

they should have kept bagram open, should have got more people out and done this on a timeline. i still think though, at the end of day, we need to leave that country and. and so i don't fault the decision, but i think the way that that went about is cost problems. can we only have one minute left ask or so? i'm going to give you one easy one, one hard 130 seconds each. i'm putting a quarter. how scared you are about the saudis, nbc and how awful. it's what they're doing with their global influence. i it's very scary because. this is a guy with trillions of dollars bottomless and he knows that wealth can influence and can can shut people up or bring people to his side. he is the reason does like a live golf tour. the reason he does all these things is he wants prove that we care more about than values and we if that's true then we should not take that money and we should not be chasing like a sociopath $1,000,000,000,000 around for his support. amen. right. i ask your colleague. amen. yeah. let's clap for that. amen. jon. for jon favreau to give me one hard question for you. so

the idea that we left bagram air force base in the middle of the night without telling our allies who stood shoulder to shoulder with us for decades because we asked them to be there. think about what that told our friends, more importantly about what that told our enemies. and then do you remember when russia hacked the pipeline and the food processing plant? they didn't do that to destabilize us. they that to see how we would react what we do nothing then got us falling all over ourselves to get back into the terrible iran deal. a number one state sponsor of terror says death to america every day and america's not even allowed in the negotiating room. and the country that we have as lead negotiator is russia. so we're allowing one enemy to negotiate with, enemy for us. all of the enemies and haters of the west see blood in the water and when they decided to move and you look at the war in ukraine, it is so much more than just a war about ukraine. this is a war for freedom and it's a war we have to win. you look at the inspiration of of these ukrainians. i mean, here hear the fathers