and bahr follows his instructions. schmidt wants to make sure that the back channel is going into the right direction. this is a crucial point. i put schmidt and bahr closer and closer together than other historians did. i also see a lot of continuity from schmidt to have more coil. -- helmut kohl. because in 1982, i found a wonderful report. bahr is talking to the national security advisor, november 1982, and bahr offers to transfer this back channel for the administration. and he accepts. later on, the back channel stops and does not have access to the evidence from the administration. for that, you have to go to have -- helmut kohl's private papers which is very difficult. it is telling that he was ready to continue the back channel. later on, it is activated again in 1987-1988. he was crucial as a back channel gorbachev'sith advisors. >> thank you. ross? ross johnson, wilson center. thank you very much, very important research. i look forward to looking at your book. two questions. you talked about the economic dim

and bahr follows his instructions. schmidt wants to make sure that the back channel is going into the right direction. this is a crucial point. i put schmidt and bahr closer and closer together than other historians did. i also see a lot of continuity from schmidt to have more coil. found ain 1982, i wonderful report. bahr is talking to the national security advisor, november 1982, offers to transfer this back channel for the administration. and he accepts. the back channel stops and does not have access to the evidence from the administration. for that, you have to go to have more coal's private papers which is very difficult. it is telling that he was ready to continue the back channel. on, it is activated again in 19 a 7-1980. -- 1987-1988. it was crucial as a back channel negotiator. >> thank you. ross? russ johnson, wilson center. thank you very much, very important research. i look forward to looking at your book. two questions. you talked about the economic bondholders.german there was some more instrumental par

copies of the koran were ripped up and windows were smashed at the bahr academy last night.ime. it's been the second time this year that the academy has been targetted. mark denten reports. copies of the koran, torn up and scattered on the floor. damage everywhere you look, the aftermath of another night of destruction at newcastle's bahr academy. the islamic education centre was targeted back injanuary in what police then described as a hate crime. last night, a group of people broke into the centre again. local people raised the alarm, then the organisers were confronted by this. all in a place designed to bring people together. this is an educational centre, with the community element to it. basically, we educate everyone. muslims, non—muslims, everyone. it is devastating. it is really sad, disturbed, hurt, and at the same time, i don't know why it happened again. and why it is happening again and again. this repeat hate crime comes less than a fortnight after the terror attacks on mosques in new zealand. the local mp's concerned. i visited the bahr academy the day after

i want to go to julia kayan and bob bahre, former cia operative.rease in arrests and you have the rhetoric of what we're seeing. what is driving this yup particular, do you think? >> so there's probably a variety of factors. one is obviously the globalization of information and therefore hate so that the individuals standing alone feel like they're part of a community. the second is the law enforcement and national security to focus violent extremism on the isis al qaeda side of the ledger rather than the right wing extremism side of the ledger and the third is clearly a political atmosphere, whether it's here, in europe or elsewhere that does not condemn, albeit safe here, does not condemn this kind of language. i think those three factors explain a rise in those other factors like the economy and globalization. >> right. >> that's why we have to view this as a movement rather than isolating each case as a lone wolf. if we don't see it as a movement we won't put the resources or knowledge behind stopping it. >> look, bob, you know, the suspect in