a top business leader in the fine city, one of the managing partners at bain capital, which is donate ago million dollars to that boston fund. he's also the co-owner of the boston celtics. he can't be perfect. anyway -- that's joking there. what a nice gesture. we always have a view of business as -- that flies in the face of stuff like that. it's refreshing to see. the fund is growing, isn't it? >> it's doing really well. the disaster happened on monday and the mayor and the governor got together very up front, knew there would be a lot of people hurt and the business community had a great outpouring and the partners of bain capital came together quickly and decided to be a cornerstone investor in this and are out there trying to raise money right now. it's been fantastic effort. boston has really risen to the challenge here. also outside of boston, we're getting calls from everywhere. >> neil: a lot of money will come in. they brought in ken fineburg to see how they're disbursed. they're meant for the vicks' families, right, or any of those affected by the attacks? >> yes. it's call

jason baines ordered him off the field because of a stress fracture. >> so me exactly with one fingerhere the majority of the pain is. >> right about here. >> reporter: loyola university researchers studied more than 1200 patients between the ages of 8 and 18. they found young athletes like robinson who train intensively in one sport are more likely to suffer stress fractures and overseer just overuse injuries. >> this injury usually occurs when a person has doing the same activity over and over again for a period of nine to twelve months. >> reporter: experts say children and teens are more prone to getting hurt playing sports because their bodies are still growing and are not able to tolerate physical stress. dr. baines encourages you know athletes to take at least one day off from training each week. >> take at least a month off between seasons to let your body fully recuperate after a long season. when i say a month, roughly three to four weeks. >> reporter: he also says children and teens have you had not play sports for more hours than their age each week so when robinson fully

you are managing director of bain capital. realistically do you think this has an impact on the business? >> you know, that's not our concern right now. our real concern right now is for the people that have been injured and the, horrific act that has happened here. so we hope the security forces will find these people and we're going to make the garden safe and, a real concern now is with the families and all the issues that this event has caused. and we're going to really go out there from a charitable standpoint and every standpoint we can toelp those families. melissa: of course. i know t celtics did choose to cancel their game tonight against the indiana pacers. what w behind that decision? >> well that was a pretty easy decision the way that works our ceo and coowner talked to david stern. we talked to the legal people of the nba. it was pretty clear that the focus of security in boston needed to be on this event. the ime scene. and not on a basketball ga. i think people in boston wanted to be home with their families th

rebecca baines kennedy -- johnson was a woman with great aspirations. she loved poetry. she was a great reader. she wanted lyndon johnson to be the fine sort of man that his grandfather was. his grandfather had been quite a scholar, a lawyer, an editor. and rebecca's own grandfather had been president of baylor university. so she sent lyndon to take dancing lessons, and she sent him to take violin lessons, and they didn't take. but she was a great friend and admirer of eleanor roosevelt. that was sort of her idol. this picture shows that at one time eleanor roosevelt was in texas, and these two had the lovely meeting together. and i think that was one of the high spots of her life because she so admired eleanor roosevelt. >> what did lyndon johnson get from his mother? >> he never would have been president without his mother. she was a great believer in education, a tremendous interest in all things literally. she insisted on going to college, even when in the last year she had to pay her own way through because her father had lost his money. when lyndon graduated from h

yes, i worked with mitt for many years at bain. some of you may know that my wife is an ambassador for president obama. she was a strong supporter of obama. the photos ask me. people would always ask me. i supported the president for one simple reason -- i like to sleep inside. [laughter] there is more truth to that then you know. if you knew my wife -- [laughter] on the economy, i hope and i believe the president will get serious on the economy in the second term. i hope he will build a strong economic team that has diverse skills and practical business skills. hope they can reach out to business. what is happening in washington is enormously frustrating. gotfiscal cliff -- we solutions out there like simpson-bowles. you may not like pieces of simpson-bowles, but at least it is a starting point to have a dialogue and address some of the issues you have got to address. my hope is that there'll be a enough restaurant congress in the second terms of that we can begin to get some of the changes that we need to make it our economy will

business presenter katie pill bain and news editor i've across. they've been told to come up with one point three billion dollars in order to sort out their banking crisis that i didn't with my plan that actually creates a three percent of their g.d.p. their economy already a contract to buy two percent last year so it just gives you an idea of what the economy the situation is that my name is the banking sector and the problem is that being told you need to recapitalize your banks that's exactly what cyprus was told the thing is they don't have the money to do that they can't afford to do that let me just jump on what yes it is what do you make of this woman sees about a billion is measured looks familiar to. me thinks the lady doth protest too much i think might apply here i think you know what i'm seeing is the same old same old from the troika from brussels the same old kind of mismanagement i tell you if i had a hundred thousand sitting in this living in baghdad right now i'd be pretty happy man but i'd be heading down to the cash machine wit

information i was able to t her in the book and write at the end of my riding so i was glad to have rebekah baines johnson. then there was that in chapter o the two great, not great but to women were a factor in the good night ranch and of course, henry added king hoots and a genteel woman with the ship captain but she did just like margaret houston and urn them into the productive entrepreneurs that they were mali goodnight and henry and kicking started out in a mud hut but the ranch is one of the most beautiful parts of texas as you know, . the last chapter was the bridge to the 20th century and it was too great businesswomen aft emily austin who was the richest woman in texas when she died in the 1850's, the next time you had rich businesswomen was sarah from dallas and the other from houston and of course, she took the first very back and forth across the trinity river the first time to start going out west and then eventually built the bridge and was a great investor and a wonderful businesswoman and by all accounts very generous and good person and revered and considered one of the founders

bain pledged $1 million to the one fund. good to have you back.> i don't need to tell you we've all been thinking about you and your city. your office is right there on boylestown street. what happened? >> we heard the explosions the first people thought it was fireworks. then we got the calls coming in that it was explosions. so everyone, you know, went to the windows and we called our security folks, our security folkses found out where all the people were but it was the most unbelievable thing was looking down the window and seeing citizens and first responders run towards the blasts, not away. and rescue so many people. it was an amazing effort by the first responders and citizens to help other citizens. it was really incredible to see. >> and in a way, you also were running to the scene of need in this one fund initiative. what's the intent and how can average americans help? what's the easiest way? >> the easiest is probably to go to onefundboston.org. the major and governor rapidly got together as soon as the crisis happened knowing there w

problem went with their idea of fair and balanced in a lot of mainstream news is well what is what is bain or sad i have to leave it there are a lot of great information that was jeff cohen journalism professor at a college. well have you ever wanted to leave your electronic footprint to the ones you love well now you can google is launching a tool that helps users manage their afterlife yes you heard me correctly there there afterlife you can leave your messages likes and dislikes e-mails and expect to the loved one of your choice after you die and google and google announced this today that users who use this product it's an array of digital services that can actually control how their data is handled and essentially this is all done while they're taking a dirt nap so this interactive account manager as it's called lets you tell google to delete or share your information to predetermine people you select after a specific period of an activity now google users can delete their their data after three six or even a year of inactivity and they can choose when the people who they want to rece

problem went with their idea of fair and balanced in a lot of mainstream news is well what is what is bain or sad i have to leave it there a lot of great information that was jeff cohen journalism professor at the college well have you been writing in a city bus lately you may want to watch out for flying baby is a mother chucked her baby as a fight escalated between her and another passenger take a look. right . now the mother apparently started arguing with a fellow passenger on the bus trip from connecticut to new york it got so heated the physical altercation ensued and luckily this child was caught by another passenger while punches were being thrown cellphone cameras captured the entire drama now no word on the mother's identity but thankfully the baby was safe and sound and he didn't cry either. let's going to do it for now for more on these stories we've covered go to youtube dot com slash our team america check out our web site at r.t. dot com slash usa you can also follow me on twitter at m underscore j underscore how we'll be back in a.

. >> if this is compromise, he would have presented to bain are saying, this isa la cart -- ala cart, take your pick. he said this is it or nothing. he said you cannot pick and choose, you get this plan or not. >> why would he do that. >> i thought you said we were bargaining. neil: i take the salad out and add potatoes, is that the same? thank you. here is all you need to know about chinese class for chumps. gets company's ceo po apollize to them, after years of stealing thousands of jobs from california it gets state governor come hat in hand, to thank them for giving some of the jobs back in person, just who is the super power here? here is the super weany here? his single miles card blacked him out here and here. he should have used... the capital one venture card. he's comg to us from home. hey fellas... hey baby, you want mama to iron your undies? nice tightie whities. i didn't know mrs. barkley made quilts. really? looks like a circus tent. is that the best you got? now if you put this, with this, you have a sailboat. what's in your wallet? you have a sailboat. but maybe the pr

that's he went on to say that bain capital never released his taxes. none of that ends up being true. this was taken a few months ago and it was released by campus reform there are people out there who want reform, they want better schools. i also remember political science class being this place where you could have great debates. like being here on the five you could say well, that's a crazy idea. why do you think that? and the professor just guided the conversation. >> right. between here and the five. balanced and no problem. >> there is the guy. >> that's the hypocritic method that's used in law school. >> this professor dairy -- darry spragow. >> forget he was trashing those are bad. he said every campaign, this is obviously leading up to the presidential election, every campaign has a message. president obama's message was vote for obama, is he going to create jobs. he is going to create peace and protect social security. mitt romney's campaign he says was vote for romney because obama is all fd. up answered used the real world. can you be more

they include boston institution john hancock, bain capital, the private equity firm once run by mittare, liberty mutual, new balance, they've all pledged over $1 million to help those affected by the attack. ken fienberg, he's tapped to organize and distribute the money of this fund. he will determine who gets what. he's got a ton of experience doing that. if you remember he was involved with the 9/11 fund, with the fund that came out of the virginia tech shootings, the bp oil spill. one fund says guidelines will be out by may 6th. all funds in this fund are going to be distributed by june 30th, anderson. pretty much every big name company that has to do with boston or has new england roots, yep, they are a donor too like the red sox, cbs, dunkin donuts, many, many others, anderson. >> all right. that's great to see. appreciate it, alison. sean collier was the m.i.t. police officer killed last thursday night. police say the bombing suspect ambushed him. a memorial for him starts in a few minutes. we'll take you there live. stay with us. into brand-new apartments... before rooftops we

. >> if this is compromise, he would have presented to bain are saying, this isa la cart -- ala cart, take your pick. he said this is it or nothing. he said you cannot pick and choose, you get this plan or not. >> why would he do that. >> i thought you said we were bargaining. neil: i take the salad out and add potatoes, is that the same? thank you. here is all you need to know about chinese class for chumps. gets company's ceo po apollize to them, after years of stealing thousands of jobs from california it gets state governor come hat in hand, to thank them for giving some of the jobs back in person, just who is the super power here? here is the alec, for this mission i upgraded your smart phone. ♪ right. but the most important feature of all is... the capital one purchase eraser. i can redeem the double miles i earned with my venture card to erase recent travel purchases. d with a few clicks, this mission never happened. uh, what's this button do? [ electricity zaps ] ♪ you requested backup? yes. yes i did. what's in your wallet? @ yes i did. all stations come over to mithis i

. >> i think it was lyndon bains johnson, the u.s.resident, who said if if you want a friend in politics, get a d dog. politics is all about adversity, whether it's psychological or sometimes even physical. >> in britain, this is just how the public showed their disdain. physically. politicians are routinely subjected to egging, custard-throwing, flour-pelting, and paint hurling. >> we've been brought up in pantomime. it's perfectly harmless fun and a way of expressing irritation, anger. it's become a quite common practice to throw things that are colored, that had will cling, liquid or flour or whatever, because that looks good on the telly. >> in the face of indignity, politicians are trained to stay calm, simply to brush it off and walk away. but even they can be egged on to the breaking point. >> it's probably dumb, but i love it when the politicians fight back and attack their attackers. >> no one does this better than deputy prime minister john prescott in 2001, taking one for england right on the cheek. >> the guy who threw the

or where job creation is not necessarily what actually happens that as we know by looking at what bain capital did that a lot of times the way to success involves eliminating jobs, not creating them. though you can say, well, you eliminate some jobs, and you create others in the process, and that's true. and it goes round and round and round. these are not issues that i took a stand on in the book because i left it for my readers to do that. [inaudible conversations] >> i know, i know. i appreciate you doing it. >> you mentioned there was no, you couldn't find any real correlation between the rich and what they did, their lives. they seemed to be -- there wasn't anything that stood out, that one was, one group was totally different than the other. and i'm curious, how about their politics? was there any correlation in the political persuasion? >> they tended to be conservative but not consistently enough so that you can -- i mean, one of the people i discuss in the book, again, is george washington. the richest president we've ever had, perhaps the richest person in america at the time

it was the obama campaign that ran a bain campaign where everything was data driven. everything was about the metrics. the romney campaign seeing big crowds, feeling big sense of momentum, ran essentially a hope that people want change campaign and they ran the more kind of a facts rather than data. >> i don't think it was fair to say there was not data on the romney campaign. there were plenty of data and we were measuring plenty of things. we may have had the wrong data and made decisions based on wrong data and changing demographics and using old models to look at that. certainly made decisions based on data. our polling information that had us winning was wrong. the data was still there. >> give us a little insight into how democrats kind of got their act together? they used to be so much worse at politics than republicans. if you go back to 1984 when president bush was reelected and they ran a better get out the vote operation. it's true that the democrats had george soros and think couldn't get over the finish line. what changed in the dna in the democratic part

so did lucy bains johnson. it depends entirely on the period, what the culture expects. and as i've written before in my life, these are not just decorative roles. the roles that family members play whether kids or whether wives or siblings, they have a political impact. so each family, each first family calculates not only what is best for the family, but is what is best for the presidency. >> all right. interesting times. barbara kellerman, thank you very much for being with us. >> my pleasure. >>> will she or won't she? that's the question on everyone's lips. is hillary clinton return to public stage this past week as her first major appearance since walking away from the state department, and that just fueled more speculation about a possible presidential run in 2016. clinton spoke at the women in the world summit in new york. >> now, i have always believed that women are not victims. we are agents of change. we are drivers of projects. >> now, while on stage clinton was asked again if she plans to run in 2016. she didn't really answer. kept her powder dry, but she m

. >> we're watching, of course, luci baines johnson, trisha nixon, the older daughter of richard nixon, susan ford, the older daughter of susan ford, sort of a reunion of both party and their full families. looks like a lot of appearances today. i'm surprised at how many people have made this big ticket appearance. okay, chuck. never know. all five presidents have been together so i don't want to miss that moment when they come out. chuck, what do you think of all of this? >> look, this is a moment, you know, our presidents get together for elaborate dedications and funerals and this is the upside of when these people get together so it's a moment for people that love american history, love american politics on both sides and sort of one of those moments we all pause. and that's why i enjoy just as a junkie watching all this. look, we're all -- we're going to pore through this legacy whether george w. bush likes it or not, because it has had an incredible impact on our american politics, but this is one of those bigger days. >> here we go. the first ladies, of course, starting with the

if you look at smart presidents like lyndon baines johnson became masterful manipulators of the political process to pass legislation including civil rights law that anyone thought was possible. and i think no one would have thought it was even possible to discuss gun control legislation and immigration at the same time at the beginning of barack obama's first term. and yet circumstances changed. in the immigration law, what is driving all this is clearly the poll numbers. that's all that is behind this whole gang of 8 legislative effort. so i think a new sort of deal of the cards, if you will. a new seventh circumstances dramatically can change the calculus in these issues. gun control, many people thought that would be possible but the nra came roaring back and held up all of these amendments last week. so it is a difficult thing to read. i think what presidents and congresses have to learn, you can't count anything out entirely. a completely new circumstance like the boston marathon bombing can crop up and suddenly put a brand new issue on the agenda in a way that no one could have ima

. >> and john bain anywhere his spike the football memo before the congressional recess, boasted that the sequester had returned honor to the grand old party. we made the center to center the spending debate on sequestration, because we forged a plan together, our actions as a team over the past couple of months have made a difference for all americans. the sequester has indeed made a difference for all americans. in the form of harsh, indiscriminate cuts that are hurting some of the country's most vulnerable. the "huffington post" reports that 99,000 people are seeing their unemployment salaries cut by 10%. those in rhode island are seeing much the same thing. >> long-term unemployment benefits are cut for up to 8,000 rhode islanders. >> that's another $40 some odd dollars, you have your phone hanging off the hook over and over with bill collectors, but all you can pay is your rent, rob peter to pay paul, to make sure you only stay that one month behind. >> the "washington post" reports that cancer clinic are closing their doors to thousands of medicare patients, including 5,000 pati

that's too bad, i think you would have fit ryan right in with lynda bird and lucy baines.man here. easily, the great man of this group. >> well i'm sure he would have enjoyed being there, if he could have been. but of course that's not, not possible. it's interesting to watch these things. this is as i think bill clinton or maybe it was barack obama mentioned, a very, very small club. of former presidents here. and george w. bush belongs to an even smaller club, if you will, since the beginning of the 20th century, if i've got my history right and michael might correct me, there have only been half a dozen presidents, a half a dozen since the beginning of the 20th century who have been elected to and served out two full consecutive terms. george w. bush is in some pretty august company there, franklin roosevelt, ronald reagan, eisenhower, woodrow wilson, people like that. you feel the history in this moment. but it must be said as well, that these libraries certainly starting with president nixon also serve as a venue to rehabilitate the presidents. and this president of c

connell: we have a former director at bain capital with us in studio.e have a lot of jokes we take. the serious argument is, you get what you pay for. if you pay them salaries of top executives thought maybe you would have a better apartment. >> would it really make a difference to what we see congress? i am not sure it would. look at rich congressman versus poor. would it make a difference? i do not think we would see much of a difference at all. dagen: how do we even better if we are getting our money's worth? how do you measure performance? >> i am not sure how you measure performance. there is a big philosophical divide in the country. at any level of k, at the highest level of economics, that divide exists. is the other side able to call if you will, for saul one side doing damage that the other may see. connell: we are in this era of big data where we try to measure literally everything. for the congress as a whole, there is no metric. functionality if the country gets downgraded by s&p. >> how would you describe the president's performance. if yo

it was the obama campaign that ran a bain campaign where everything was data driven. everything was about the metrics. the romney campaign seeing big crowds, feeling big sense of momentum, ran essentially a hope that people want change campaign and they ran the more kind of a facts rather than data. >> i don't think it was fair to say there was not data on the romney campaign. there were plenty of data and we were measuring plenty of things. we may have had the wrong data and made decisions based on wrong data and changing demographics and using old models to look at that. basednly made decisions on data. our polling information that had us winning was wrong. the data was still there. >> give us a little insight into how democrats kind of got their act together? they used to be so much worse at politics than republicans. if you go back to 1984 when president bush was reelected and they ran a better get out the vote operation. it's true that the democrats had george soros and think couldn't get over the finish line. what changed in the dna in the democratic party that

compare supporting a narrative that mitt romney was i am police seive in the death after woman because bainked and further debunked. >> megyn: we'll see now. the fbi investigating this and they'll get to the bottom of it. if it was a leak from the internal staff they'll get to the bottom of that or a bugging. gentlemen, thank you both. >> thanks. >> megyn: coming up next a group of pink-clad female bounty hunters now getting sued after this. we'll show you the tapes. but you can help fight muscle loss with exercise and ensure muscle health. i've got revigor. what's revigor? it's the amino acid metabolite, hmb to help rebuild muscle and strength naturally lost over time. [ female announcer ] ensure muscle health has revigor and protein to help protect, preserve, and promote muscle health. keeps you from getting soft. [ major nutrition ] ensure. nutrition in charge! of mild to moderate alzheimer's disease is exelon patch. now with more treatment options, exelon patch may improve overall function and cognition. your loved one can get a free 30-day trial. and you can have access to nurses. it d

bain capital is in there. carbonite. sap the german software giant. shut them dune.alked to the ceo and he said we are not taking any chances at all. most companies said forget it everybody stay home. the lost money and needless to say we understand how you important the emotional and human toll is, that super cedes everything. it will take awhile to know the real cost of this. >> geraldo: in the double digit billions? where are do you figure? >> could very well be a billion plus. i would give it that at the moment because you also have major league sports that had to postpone two games. last night you had the red sox shotting down and saying no game. shut down fenway park because they hadn't caught the guy yet. you cannot take that chance. if you look at the gate receipts for rest so red sox ga sing isle home game $2.2 million in lost tickets. the fact is last night all of the bars and restaurants got hammered. the bruins game versus the pittsburgh penguins. a hot ticket. they shut that down. t.d. garden is where they have that. that was 3 million in ticket sales no

bain capital is in there. carbonite. sap the german software giant. shut them dune.e not taking any chances at all. most companies said forget it everybody stay home. the lost money and needless to say we understand how you important the emotional and human toll is, that super cedes everything. it will take awhile to know the real cost of this. >> geraldo: in the double digit billions? where are do you figure? >> could very well be a billion plus. i would give it that at the moment because you also have major league sports that had to postpone two games. last night you had the red sox shotting down and saying no game. shut down fenway park because they hadn't caught the guy yet. you cannot take that chance. if you look at the gate receipts for rest so red sox ga sing isle home game $2.2 million in lost tickets. the fact is last night all of the bars and surrounding restaurants got hammered. the bruins game versus the pittsburgh penguins. a hot ticket. th down. t.d. garden is where they have that. that was 3 million in ticket sales not to mention bars and restaurants.

alcohol in the gasoline, which then means we can stop importing so much oil, which is really what is the baintes economy. oil imports are costing consumers a fortune. and its is unnecessary. ashley: you mentioned because natural gas is for transportation fuel. it is out there. there are a growing number of vehicles that use natural gas but there still an awful lot of infrastructure that has to be put in place. how likely is that given the federal government is essentially bust? >> well, the government should not have to pay for the infrastructure. that's private invested money. private investors will make a lot of money off that infrastructure. here's what the government has to do and it doesn't cost a dime. they need to establish enablers, permits, licenses, send a direction. have the president, have the congress say, we want to dramatically increase natural gas for transportation fuels, and set the enablesers in motion. for example, the epa would need to approve use of methanol in gasoline. tell the epa to get on the stick. get going, epa. let's find out what it will take to make that happe

that in fact, president obama hasn't gone far enough to make social security solvent as has speaker bainre during the negotiations last summer. so he ought to take on member ofs his own party and resign as head of the campaign committee because he is total hypocrite and also not stating the fact that all president obama has done is make the consumer price index and a way to measure inflation more accurate, period. rick: we'll reach out to the congressman's office and see if he likes to come on and talk with you. >> good luck. rick: let me get back to the point there are so many democrats upset with this president. >> yes. rick: the political advantage president obama may have been going for in agreeing to these entitlement reforms even at risk of upsetting the left flank of his party? >> i disagree with those democrats and elizabeth warren, who i respect in almost other issues and senator sanders, i disagree with them but at least they're consistent. they would rather cut anything than have an accurate cpi that measures inflation accurately which is all president obama has done and they

bain capital is in there. carbonite. sap the german software giant. shut them dune. the ceo and he said we are not taking any chances at all. most companies said forget it everybody stay home. the lost money and needless to say we understand how you important the emotional and human toll is, that super cedes everything. it will take awhile to know the real cost of this. >> geraldo: in the double digit billions? where are do you figure? >> could very well be a billion plus. i would give it that at the moment because you also have major league sports that had to postpone two games. last night you had the red sox shotting down and saying no game. shut down fenway park because they hadn't caught the guy yet. you cannot take that chance. if you look at the gate receipts for rest so red sox ga sing isle home game $2.2 million in lost tickets. the fact is last night all of the bars and surrounding restaurants got hammered. the bruins game versus the pittsburgh penguins. a hot ticket. they shut that down. t.d. garden is where they have that. that was 3 million in ticket sale

young man rammed his car to the dpraj of an aquantity ens and tried to break his way to the home with bain bat. when police arrived he fled in the car leading them on a high speed chase. he was taken to an area hospital for psychologist evaluation. less than twenty hour hours before my husband died mark decided he didn't want stay at the hospital. the he was dismissed. no one knew. law enforcement was not notified even though they had requested that the hospital let them know when he was going to be dismissed. the hospital's justification for not notifying the law enforcement prior to the release was that hipaa prevented it disclosure. even his parents didn't know if until they were called until mark called them. no one knew that mark had been released. but mark's privacy had been protected. during the investigation to the murder, it was revealed that mark had feelings of animosity and resentment toward ed. we didn't know that. it if mark had come to my home and asked where mark was. i had would have innocently sent the killer to him and ed to the grave. once again, mark's privacy had been

you were talking with peter bain this morning. he is a great guy. used to work for him years ago.onomic policy uncertainty and map that. and i think you have done some work on this, you look at the willingness of small business toss spend. knowing what the rules of the gapes are. it has an impact. i think we are starting to see a revisiting of higher levels of uncertainty on the policy front. >> so what does that mean just from the markets? jason pointed out that he knew earnings would be weak last time around. does it matter this year? >> yeah. i think we're sort of -- yes, it matters. but i think we have this rotation going on from cash into equities. it's helped by fed policy and the like. the earlier conversation about what is the right multiple is a fair one. we have been doing work on that. it's hard to relate it to interest rates. we don't know what true interest marks are because we have been so heavily managed. there's a lot of it. it's probably hard to do. the answer you get is up around 16 or 17. that said, you have to crank that multiple. >> two basis points in your mo

and the president of the united states, lyndon baines johnson told him call frank church for your damnthat i think the president is being legitimately criticized at this table right now and we also would be criticizing if it had passed as much too weak but he has gotten through a lot of things. i think on foreign policy and simply weak -- >> this was a pretty big one. >> this is a big loss, no question. no question. >> hold it. >> the idea that -- somehow that he has been weak all the way is really wrong. >> nobody is calling him weak here. i don't think anybody -- >> we just spent five minutes saying that. >> we are disappointed and suggesting he doesn't know yet how to flex his muscles in washington, d.c. he's not weak. but there's a difference between knowing how to legislatively break people's arms. >> you say enormously been passed. this should not have been so difficult. >> i totally agree with you on the gun control issue. >> speaking of flexing muscles in washington, one of my favorites was jack murtha. he had a rule. you come to me. jack was a tough democrat from pennsylvania.

it was the obama campaign that ran a bain campaign where everything was data driven. everything was about the metrics. the romney campaign seeing big crowds, feeling big sense of momentum, ran essentially a hope that people want change campaign and they ran the more kind of a facts rather than data. >> i don't think it was fair to say there was not data on the romney campaign. there were plenty of data and we were measuring plenty of things. we may have had the wrong data and made decisions based on wrong data and changing demographics and using old models to look at that. certainly made decisions based on data. our polling information that had us winning was wrong. the data was still there. >> give us a little insight into how democrats kind of got their act together? they used to be so much worse at politics than republicans. if you go back to 1984 when president bush was reelected and they ran a better get out the vote operation. it's true that the democrats had george soros and think couldn't get over the finish line. what changed in the dna in the democratic part

in addition to the national book award, his other honors included the lyndon baines johnson foundation award, the carl sandburg award for nonfiction, the university scholar award at the university of illinois, the american historical association's award for scholarly distinction and the freedom award from the u.s. capitol historical society. professor rimney's wife ruth passed away last year. i want to express my condolences to their children robert, elizabeth, joan, their three grandchildren and to professor rimney's friends, colleagues and former students. i will close with this. in 2003, the national endowment for the humanities invited professor rimney to deliver the inaugural heroes of history lecture. he chose as his subject members of the first united states congress. this is part of what he said of those men in whose footsteps many of us follow -- quote -- "ordinary. most of them were just ordinary individuals as far as the record shows yet they performed heroically. and they deserve to be called heroes because they set aside their regional and local differences, their economic