go on, bakari. >> no. was going to talk about the talking point of donald trump raising all this money in comparison to the democratic field. let's not forget hillary clinton raised $45 million in the first quarter of last year. barack obama set a higher standard than that in 2008. when you look at the totality, when you look at the numbers of the -- the total amount of money raised by these democratic candidates in this cycle, albeit it's almost 30 of them, but they have still raised more money that donald trump has. so there is energy on the democratic side in terms of fund-raising. you can't look at bernie sanders and his $17 million or $18 million and compare it to donald trump. that's apples and oranges. that's not fair. >> alice, i'll get you on the other side. i got to take a break. alice, you'll get your chance. we're going to talk about mayor pete buttigieg as well, admitting his campaign has a weakness. we'll tell you what it is next. many people living with diabetes monitor their blood glucose e

bakari, what do you make of gary's piece?bviously a lot of love in that room for the vice president. it's not a scientific sampling, of course. >> you'll find people who appreciate, who love joe biden, who appreciate the fact that he has given up 40 years of his life for service to this country. i think that's very important. but joe biden, like kamala harris, like pete buttigieg, like amy klobuchar is going to have to answer questions about his record, which many people found problematic. in 1984, he was working with strom thurmond on expanding 8s forfeiture, the crime bill. these things are very, very important. and because his record of service is so long, he's going to have to answer these questions not with simply value propositions, but with policy points on how he is going to unravel some of the damage that he's done. look, i think that all of us, all three of us on here would proudly wear a joe biden for president t-shirt if he is our nominee. but the point is this is the primary right now. and joe biden has questions

on that. >> bakari, angela mentioned anita hill.ow much of a fumble is it that on the day he's announcing there's an interview out with her in which she's not going to details of a conversation which, you know, is to her credit, but clearly, it was not the apology she probably deserves or was expecting, however you want to characterize it. >> i think anita hill's deserved this apology for nearly 30 years. and it's pretty transparent when you do it two weeks before you're running for president of the united states. people say oh my god, why are you questioning joe biden. we shouldn't do this. this is going to be a replay of 2016. well, no, it's not. that's the purpose of a primary. and one of my very good friends who is a political consultant, jerry always says the couch is on the ballot. it won't just be donald trump versus whoever the democratic nominee is. it's also going to be the couch. and what we found out is in milwaukee, in detroit, in certain cases in pennsylvania, the couch won out and black voters simply chose to stay hom

bakari sellers, hilary rosen, alice stewart, good evening. bakari, why is this becoming such an important issue for mayor pete buttigieg now? >> well, i think first and foremost, he's becoming a serious contender. i think every poll you see he's in the top tier. people are starting to comb his record ask see what he was for and how he did as mayor of south bend. this is a very fair issue. i think all the candidates, whether or not it's kamala harris as district attorney and attorney general or whether or not it's amy klobuchar when she was a prosecutor as well are going to have to reconcile their records and their issues on race in today's climate. and so mayor buttigieg is going to have to respond to these questions about the firing of the police chief. he's going to have to respond to any questions about race that simmer up from south bend. but if i did have one piece of advice for the campaign, it would also be that the mayor should tout some of the things he did positively for people of color in south bend, if there are any. i'm sure ther

why don't we bring in bakari sellers.akari, listen, like so many other democrats vying for the white house, mayor buttigieg is making a big push to appeal to african-americans, to the african-american voters. during a speech today before al sharpton's national action network, he clarified, this was a comment he made in 2015, about all lives matter. listen to this. >> what i did not understand at that time was that that phrase just early into mid eventually 2015 was coming to be viewed as a counterslogan to blaerck live matter. this statement that seems very an dine and nobody could be against was actually being used to devalue what the black lives matter movement was telling us. since learning why that phrase was being used to push back on activism, i've stopped using it in that context. >> does that explanation work you for? >> it does. he's done a good job at least verbalizing he has an african-american agenda. talking about and atoning for some of those mistakes. this race is a marathon over time. you're going to see c

we should turn our efforts to focus in that regard rather than cutting the funding there. >> bakari,ording to jake's reporting, cooler heads prevailed on the president about shutting the border down. i suppose they could prevail on not reinstating the separation policy. what do you -- how do you see what's going on here? >> well, unfortunately, this is not just haphazard, but it's callous as well. and i agree with david. one of the faux pass that was made in this immigration policy or lack thereof was cutting the funding to those three countries. the president himself and stephen miller even more importantly have stated that they're trying to curb legal immigration. i think we can go back and look at the policies put forth from his ill-fated muslim ban all the way to now where he has a separation policy which is fundamentally problematic. everything in his immigration policy has been the antithesis of what this country stands for. let me take away one talking point from the right right now. i want everyone to understand that democrats in no means are in favor of open borders. in fact

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