>> i'm not -- come on bakari what? i mean, you have someone -- >> come on, bakari, you can call her out. you can say -- be brave, bakari. be brave and say she shouldn't have said that. >> wait a second. you have someone -- no! you have someone who acts like a petulant child and threw a temper tantrum. and i think what we see is nancy pelosi legislatively and strategically -- >> you're a smart guy, bakari. >> -- gets the upper hand on donald trump and he has a problem when people get the upper hand on him, especially women. and that's what we see him lashing at it. >> bakari, just say that nancy pelosi shouldn't have said it either. it's okay, bakari. you'll feel better. >> i don't believe that. i honestly think -- >> do you believe the president needs an intervention? >> yes, i honestly believe that the friends of the president of the united states, if he has any, the friends and family of the president of the united states, i think those individuals who are close to him, the lindsey grahams and the bill barrs, that th